GnomeProject
03-25-2003, 08:44 PM
Read this article, http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8472 , then boycott everything you can that is connected with OFFICE DEPOT!!!
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GaMMa
03-25-2003, 08:56 PM
I think the Office Depot near me went out of business, or that could have been another store. I've only been to the place once and I never found what I was looking for. CompUSA is a much better place to get things from, so I go there instead. Wow that's stupid they've got to be certified by Microsoft, guess I won't see Red Hat there.
zdude255
03-25-2003, 09:04 PM
I believe that this is a serious issue as well.
I strongly believe that a boycott petition is needed. I unfortunently do not have the resources to host this, (The bandwidth/machine, not the OS/Software :D ) however I do believe that there needs to be an organization for non-commercial made standards.
This is not simply about Linux, if Microsoft is allowed to do this they set a standard of Windows. I find this to be very strong evidence for antitrust, and I highly expect this to lead Microsoft to more hot water.
I hope that one of the moderators sees this and moves it to one of the more popular forums.
I strongly believe that a boycott petition is needed. I unfortunently do not have the resources to host this, (The bandwidth/machine, not the OS/Software :D ) however I do believe that there needs to be an organization for non-commercial made standards.
This is not simply about Linux, if Microsoft is allowed to do this they set a standard of Windows. I find this to be very strong evidence for antitrust, and I highly expect this to lead Microsoft to more hot water.
I hope that one of the moderators sees this and moves it to one of the more popular forums.
2ndsign
03-25-2003, 10:47 PM
in ky where i live
ive never seen a linux anything on the shelves!i have in other states!
its my hope that longhorn will not be well accepted by the public:(
ive never seen a linux anything on the shelves!i have in other states!
its my hope that longhorn will not be well accepted by the public:(
retoon
03-25-2003, 11:01 PM
I work at Staples, and I know that the Office depot nearby is expensive, and there is no such thing as customer service. That is local to North Haven CT. Staples proudly carries RH8, Mandrake 8.2, and sells even more posix compliant OS's online at Staples.com, plus they will be carrying RH9 when it comes out April 7th. (Can't wait!)
clw54
03-25-2003, 11:05 PM
It might not even be true.
chatins
03-25-2003, 11:44 PM
Checked their website and they don't offer linux. Put a fork in these guys - they are done!
dungscooperdave
03-26-2003, 12:07 AM
Wow. I guess I'm not shopping at Office Depot again. Heck, I don't ever think I did to begin with :). Staples, CompUSA, Best Buy, all better stores to buy that kind of stuff anyway. :D
Arcane_Disciple
03-26-2003, 12:39 AM
If a dinky college book store sells linux software (the school doesn't even support it on the networks) then why shouldn't a big name company? This has to be one of the dumbest ideas Microsoft has come up with for sometime.
hop-frog
03-26-2003, 12:42 AM
I don't buy software anyway. I use Linux.
red_over_blue
03-26-2003, 12:50 AM
Here is that picture...
retoon
03-26-2003, 01:20 AM
You know what, I love the fact that Linux is a freely distributable Operating system, but any chance I get to spend money on it, I find myself doing it. One reason might be that I have dialup and can't d/l it. But its more about my mind set.
I don't buy software anyway. I use Linux.
Although you can get by with out paying for your software, keep in mind that Open Source software doesn't have to be free. I used to live by the motto "Never pay for software". That was when I used windows, I was young and foolish. I now realize that people spend time working on these applications, and deserve credit and reimbursement. Its funny, because I really stuck it to MS. I used to use pirated software, including the Windows OS, and now have switched to linux, where every distribution (Besides Slack ware, and turbo linux) I have payed for. I payed for Star Office 6, and am happy to do so. I am going to buy Red Hat 9 when it comes out. (besides, you don't get those neat "Powered by Red Hat linux" stickers when you download the ISOs).:D
My new motto is -
"Propagate Open Source, pay for it"
and you know what, its going in my sig! But any way, yeah Office Max is horrible.:mad:
I don't buy software anyway. I use Linux.
Although you can get by with out paying for your software, keep in mind that Open Source software doesn't have to be free. I used to live by the motto "Never pay for software". That was when I used windows, I was young and foolish. I now realize that people spend time working on these applications, and deserve credit and reimbursement. Its funny, because I really stuck it to MS. I used to use pirated software, including the Windows OS, and now have switched to linux, where every distribution (Besides Slack ware, and turbo linux) I have payed for. I payed for Star Office 6, and am happy to do so. I am going to buy Red Hat 9 when it comes out. (besides, you don't get those neat "Powered by Red Hat linux" stickers when you download the ISOs).:D
My new motto is -
"Propagate Open Source, pay for it"
and you know what, its going in my sig! But any way, yeah Office Max is horrible.:mad:
Icarus
03-26-2003, 08:16 AM
I love those Red Hat stickers, got one on my laptop :D
I don't think I ever did shop at Office Depot...if I did I never bought anything, I can't say the same about OfficeMax though...I bought a couple of chairs from them :)
I don't think I ever did shop at Office Depot...if I did I never bought anything, I can't say the same about OfficeMax though...I bought a couple of chairs from them :)
JamminJoeyB
03-26-2003, 08:51 AM
Looks like more strong arm tactics from Redmond.
Does DOJ know anything about this?
Does DOJ know anything about this?
GnomeProject
03-26-2003, 09:04 AM
Not sure if the DOJ is aware, but if someone could contact them or has an inside contact...do it PLEASE!
JamminJoeyB
03-26-2003, 09:24 AM
Found this at the DOJ site. It could be a starting point.
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/contact/newcase.htm
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/contact/newcase.htm
Unrejistered
03-26-2003, 11:19 PM
Punk *** Bastards!!
I think we should all mass e-mail that Mike guy and let him know that his store sucks anyway, the one by me looks like a swap meet, hasnt been remodeled since the 80's. Can you say DUMP.
I think we should all mass e-mail that Mike guy and let him know that his store sucks anyway, the one by me looks like a swap meet, hasnt been remodeled since the 80's. Can you say DUMP.
antitrustworthy
03-27-2003, 10:02 AM
Well I feel as though I did my duty as an american against antitrust as well as a devoted despiser of Microsoft. I did go to the above DOJ link and report the incident. I'm quite sure they are already on top of it, but it made me feel good to report it anyway. Now when Microsoft crumbles under it's own bloodlust, I can say I had a small part in it.:D However, if Microsoft sends people to kill me like in the movie Antitrust, someone please notify the authorities. If I dont post for a looooong time, call the cops. thanks!
dcfxq
03-27-2003, 10:18 AM
Designed for WinXP is a pure bunch of crap.
Before I permanently wiped WinXP from my HD about three months I has had nothing but one reinstall problem after another for the slightest of reasons. In any case after my fourth complete reinstall (from scratch) I added a MICROSOFT cordless mouse as a test for my wife who wanted to use it on her laptop. Pop the CD in and ... voila, half way through the startup I get the "Incompatible w/WinXP message. Now ... the mouse packaging clearly had said logo "proudly" displayed and of cpurse it was in the WinXP partition. I drove on and when the "install" had finished and automagically rebooted my puter I get the old BSOD and while it worked alright in Xandros I had effectively lost WinXP.
Okay rememebr this was an MS product being installed to another MS product.
I took the natural step - I wiped out the WinXP partition completely and been happpily WinFree since.
Sorry for the longish rant but .... screw Bill Gates and MS.
Before I permanently wiped WinXP from my HD about three months I has had nothing but one reinstall problem after another for the slightest of reasons. In any case after my fourth complete reinstall (from scratch) I added a MICROSOFT cordless mouse as a test for my wife who wanted to use it on her laptop. Pop the CD in and ... voila, half way through the startup I get the "Incompatible w/WinXP message. Now ... the mouse packaging clearly had said logo "proudly" displayed and of cpurse it was in the WinXP partition. I drove on and when the "install" had finished and automagically rebooted my puter I get the old BSOD and while it worked alright in Xandros I had effectively lost WinXP.
Okay rememebr this was an MS product being installed to another MS product.
I took the natural step - I wiped out the WinXP partition completely and been happpily WinFree since.
Sorry for the longish rant but .... screw Bill Gates and MS.
BaVinic
03-27-2003, 10:27 AM
Just for the record, I showed that artical to my brother, who happens to manage an Office Depot in Texas, and he told me that he was not aware of such a memo, but that if there was one, he would check into it. also, I must add here, that just because a store is requiring a Deisgned for MS logo on a package, that does not mean it is evil, if any of you work in the retail market, you know one of the biggest costs is returns, items that do not work with current OS's cost milloins in revinew every year.
If you are going to sell a peice of hardware,or software for a windows based machine, it SHOULD carry the designed for windows ( version ) logo. this way the consumer knows it will work.
Hell, I wish they would start a Designed for Linux logo campain. :)
As to Office Depot selling Linux, I cannot speak for all the stores, but the one here in my area does carry just about every Distro that is available in a retail package, as a matter of fact, the manager of my local store, has even (using their broad band connection) download and burnt to CD other distros at the customers request. and only charge a small ( 3.00 ) cd fee.
I am not ready to boycott anything at this point, I am not sure that artical is even real.
Ok, that's my two cenets.
:)
BaVinic
If you are going to sell a peice of hardware,or software for a windows based machine, it SHOULD carry the designed for windows ( version ) logo. this way the consumer knows it will work.
Hell, I wish they would start a Designed for Linux logo campain. :)
As to Office Depot selling Linux, I cannot speak for all the stores, but the one here in my area does carry just about every Distro that is available in a retail package, as a matter of fact, the manager of my local store, has even (using their broad band connection) download and burnt to CD other distros at the customers request. and only charge a small ( 3.00 ) cd fee.
I am not ready to boycott anything at this point, I am not sure that artical is even real.
Ok, that's my two cenets.
:)
BaVinic
shakin
03-27-2003, 10:39 AM
Is this place turning into Slashdot? RTFA before posting! Nowhere does it say that OD will not carry Linux products. It simply states that any product that is supposed to run on XP should have the MS certification logo, or else it won't be sold. This makes total sense from the standpoint of a store that needs to reduce returned merchandise. Some piece of crap software that fugs up Windows will make for an angry customer coming back to return the software and complain.
FWIW, the OD near me (Toronto) sells Redhat and Suse as well as several Linux-related books.
It's also important to note that Office Depot is not a software store, they are a business supply store that sells some software. The OD I go to has one aisle dedicated to software, with 99% of the 15000+ sq/ft of store space being stationary, furniture or hardware. I'm impressed that they carry Linux at all since it's probably not in high demand from the small business owners and employees that frequent the store.
FWIW, the OD near me (Toronto) sells Redhat and Suse as well as several Linux-related books.
It's also important to note that Office Depot is not a software store, they are a business supply store that sells some software. The OD I go to has one aisle dedicated to software, with 99% of the 15000+ sq/ft of store space being stationary, furniture or hardware. I'm impressed that they carry Linux at all since it's probably not in high demand from the small business owners and employees that frequent the store.
pythagras
03-27-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by shakin
Is this place turning into Slashdot? RTFA before posting! Nowhere does it say that OD will not carry Linux products. It simply states that any product that is supposed to run on XP should have the MS certification logo, or else it won't be sold. This makes total sense from the standpoint of a store that needs to reduce returned merchandise. Some piece of crap software that fugs up Windows will make for an angry customer coming back to return the software and complain.
FWIW, the OD near me (Toronto) sells Redhat and Suse as well as several Linux-related books.
It's also important to note that Office Depot is not a software store, they are a business supply store that sells some software. The OD I go to has one aisle dedicated to software, with 99% of the 15000+ sq/ft of store space being stationary, furniture or hardware. I'm impressed that they carry Linux at all since it's probably not in high demand from the small business owners and employees that frequent the store.
Exactly my thoughts. The linux community has a seige mentality.
Is this place turning into Slashdot? RTFA before posting! Nowhere does it say that OD will not carry Linux products. It simply states that any product that is supposed to run on XP should have the MS certification logo, or else it won't be sold. This makes total sense from the standpoint of a store that needs to reduce returned merchandise. Some piece of crap software that fugs up Windows will make for an angry customer coming back to return the software and complain.
FWIW, the OD near me (Toronto) sells Redhat and Suse as well as several Linux-related books.
It's also important to note that Office Depot is not a software store, they are a business supply store that sells some software. The OD I go to has one aisle dedicated to software, with 99% of the 15000+ sq/ft of store space being stationary, furniture or hardware. I'm impressed that they carry Linux at all since it's probably not in high demand from the small business owners and employees that frequent the store.
Exactly my thoughts. The linux community has a seige mentality.
LinuxLuke
03-27-2003, 02:29 PM
Yes, we do have a seige mentality! I say we all dress up in penguin suits and march on to Redmond. and start knocking the MS offices down! tie big bad billy to a stake, and burn him!
yeah... that'd be fun... but where to find several thousand penguin costumes...?
yeah... that'd be fun... but where to find several thousand penguin costumes...?
dcfxq
03-27-2003, 02:33 PM
Tux 'R Us ?????????
Maybe MS will adopt the pigeon as it logo replacing butterfly man and sniping at its "loyal" users - the "pigeons".
Maybe MS will adopt the pigeon as it logo replacing butterfly man and sniping at its "loyal" users - the "pigeons".
dungscooperdave
03-27-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by LinuxLuke
Yes, we do have a seige mentality! I say we all dress up in penguin suits and march on to Redmond. and start knocking the MS offices down! tie big bad billy to a stake, and burn him!
yeah... that'd be fun... but where to find several thousand penguin costumes...?
Amen Brothuh!!! Amen!!! I'm with you all the way!!! Let's march on!!!!!
Penguin suits? I'm sure we could manage to make a couple..... :D
Yes, we do have a seige mentality! I say we all dress up in penguin suits and march on to Redmond. and start knocking the MS offices down! tie big bad billy to a stake, and burn him!
yeah... that'd be fun... but where to find several thousand penguin costumes...?
Amen Brothuh!!! Amen!!! I'm with you all the way!!! Let's march on!!!!!
Penguin suits? I'm sure we could manage to make a couple..... :D
dungscooperdave
03-27-2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by BaVinic
Just for the record, I showed that artical to my brother, who happens to manage an Office Depot in Texas, and he told me that he was not aware of such a memo, but that if there was one, he would check into it. also, I must add here, that just because a store is requiring a Deisgned for MS logo on a package, that does not mean it is evil, if any of you work in the retail market, you know one of the biggest costs is returns, items that do not work with current OS's cost milloins in revinew every year.
If you are going to sell a peice of hardware,or software for a windows based machine, it SHOULD carry the designed for windows ( version ) logo. this way the consumer knows it will work.
If they really wanted to save big on returned hardware and software, they should just stop selling MS products all together and replace the free shelve space with the various Linux distros...
Just for the record, I showed that artical to my brother, who happens to manage an Office Depot in Texas, and he told me that he was not aware of such a memo, but that if there was one, he would check into it. also, I must add here, that just because a store is requiring a Deisgned for MS logo on a package, that does not mean it is evil, if any of you work in the retail market, you know one of the biggest costs is returns, items that do not work with current OS's cost milloins in revinew every year.
If you are going to sell a peice of hardware,or software for a windows based machine, it SHOULD carry the designed for windows ( version ) logo. this way the consumer knows it will work.
If they really wanted to save big on returned hardware and software, they should just stop selling MS products all together and replace the free shelve space with the various Linux distros...
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