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raggie30
02-26-2003, 04:46 PM
they say its out tomorow what will it mean to the linux comunity? from what i here lots a distros are waiting for it b4 they relase new distro

mdwatts
02-26-2003, 05:01 PM
Should make the Intel 830/845G owners very happy as they will now have drivers for their video cards.

Strike
02-26-2003, 05:20 PM
Been using 4.2.99.4 for a while. And, well ... the cursors are pretty :p Not too different for me, though I want to play with the "RandR" stuff (Resize and Rotate) so I can finally change resolutions on the fly without restarting X (and no, using a virtual desktop where you pan around a smaller area at a time doesn't count as changing the resolution in the same way)

raggie30
02-26-2003, 05:36 PM
thank you sounds good. thats one thing i like about linux they add updates a lot

metz2000
02-26-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Strike
... I want to play with the "RandR" stuff (Resize and Rotate) so I can finally change resolutions on the fly without restarting X ...

Will 4.3 include this feature then?

I think it is excellent - So long as new builds enhance stability first and then add new features.

bwkaz
02-26-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by metz2000
Will 4.3 include this feature then? Well, a quick reading of the Changelog found this in 4.2.99.02:

862. Add a ServerFlags/ServerLayout option for disabling the RandR extension
(David Dawes). Answer your question?

mdwatts
02-26-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by bwkaz
Answer your question?

Not really... :(

Would you mind seaching a bit more and posting what you can find?

I'm waiting... :D

Anyone interested in the 4.3 release should actually review the Changelog etc. to see what additional features/support have been added.

raggie30
02-26-2003, 07:55 PM
i still dont know what drivers depned on i mean video card drivers. are they depending on xfree86 or the kernel?

bwkaz
02-26-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by mdwatts
Not really... :(

Would you mind seaching a bit more and posting what you can find?

I'm waiting... :D Well you know, I figure since there's an option to disable it, then the functionality had better be there, right? :D

;)

Anyway,

i still dont know what drivers depned on i mean video card drivers. are they depending on xfree86 or the kernel? Yes.

In other words, they depend on both. For example, the vast majority of nVidia cards require nVidia's kernel module (NVdriver or nvidia, depending on the version of the driver you install) in order to give the X driver access to the hardware so it can do hardware acceleration. That's part of the kernel. But the NVIDIA_GLX package becomes part of XFree86 -- it includes an X driver named nvidia_drv.o, an OpenGL library named libGL.so, and a couple of other things.

ATI cards (the 8500 and newer anyway) depend on the fglxr (I think) kernel module and the fglxr_drv.o X driver.

Older cards that didn't have hardware acceleration of anything may not have required a kernel driver, but they all definitely depend on the X driver.