I hate Linux And windows

[craiggiles]

Well its official I've being trying to use linux for four weeks now and I've decided I hate it.

I have never had so many problems trying to get online or trying to find a file.

I have been trying to use Mandrake Linux (Newbie distro, yeah right) Its destroyed my pc and cost me alot of money on new modems and wasting time trying to find answers why it wont work, It could be just that I'm thick and have been using Windows and Risc OS for too long but I think its just linux.

If the linux distributers think theyre going to steel costumers off Microsoft theyre very much mistaken, they need to work on the GUI's more.
:mad:

Don't get me wrong I hate windows too, bloated over sized crap it is:(

The only true OS is Risc OS:)

Acorns Rule:)

[Saptech]

Yep, I didn't kno any thing about linux either, till I kept using it.

Now I find myself using Linux more then I do Windoze!

[Zoist]

I used to hate Linux too. Until I never gave up reading and trying things, then I learn't a lot and don't use WIndoze anymore unless I really have to. How about getting a distro like peanut Linux which is small in size and simplified a bit and would make it easier to use maybe?
Or try Lycoris. I installed it once and it was a very easy to install and use distro.

[stumbles]

I have never known Linux to distroy hardware. I have experienced it puking because the hardware was already crap. That's the thing about it, it makes more use of the hardware you already have.

At first I tended to dis-like Linux....... until I stopped trying to use the windows mind set. Then everything started to fall in place.

[nuttron]

Well i must say there is a learning curve to linux,i have been at it for a year now and i still have to peek at these forums(justlinux)....i must have installed more than a dozen distros,and uninstalled,including windows...i found mdk 8.1 less buggy than 9.0,rh 7.2 was o.k too...caldera 3.1 is a distro that installed marvelously with everything working the first time....and yes like zoist pointed out peanut and lycoris are pretty cute too.....right now i am switching between slack 8.1,caldera,and libranet2.0...i do not know anything about risc......tried bsd....could not get display to function...hummm....later....for me it is all about the pleasure of learning of computing...you see i am not a power user,no gamer ,if i was it would be a different story maybe,altough i have seen post about linux users who are.....i was getting bored in windows,do not like their licencing policies....i like the philosophy behind linux....it does not keep me from buying some of my distros,whether boxed-in or from magazines,i find it hard to buy the boxed-in ones here in the north country.......i do not think 4 weeks is enough though to learn to use linux...well so much for my two cents......tell us about that risc os ?

[hkctr]

Since you have invested some time into learning Linux, I would strongly encourage you to try other distros. You may fare better and get a return on your investment. Mandrake is not for everybody. Nor is RedHat or any other distro for that matter. Linux is not a one size fits all OS.

I would suggest booting with the Knoppix 3.1 CD and running linux off your CD. At least this way you will know if linux has what you are looking for or not. It will most likely find and configure itself properly. Do a "lsmod" and see what modules it is loading. Check the fstab to see how that looks. Ditto the XFConfig file. You can learn a lot by doing these simple things. This may give you enough hints to you get your Mandrake going.

[craiggiles]

Well its not like ive not been trying as i started off 2 months ago with SuSE and that wouldnt work, so i binned that (well sold it anyways), then i got red hat, didnt even install that cos my sys req were too low for it and i didnt want to ruin my new xp pc with it.
So i got mandrake and its the only one that would work and my pc(not having heard of vector yet).

So it installed well in 1/2 hour and was up and running in about 45 mins, but then it wouldnt recognize my modem so £50 spent on a new serial port modem.

And then kppp didnt exixt on my pc and dip wouldnt install or work:(

so ive been trying but not sucseeding:(

But Risc OS as i mentioned before is the only computer OS i know inside out and is the only true os in my opinion as it wasnt copied from anything else:)
It was designed by acorn computers in 1982 as a replacement for BBC Basic and was used untill 1998 when acorn went bankrupt
windows is a copy of Risc OS 3 completely.
But im still using it and it doesnt try to do things for you like windows and linux try to do, it lets me do everything, thats what i thought linux would be like because i hate the fact windows hides everything from me.

But linux still trys and does things for me which i hate.

I may just persiveer, and try and install red hat on my XP pc, with out wrecking it:)

And mandrake is still on my other PC so i may just boot i ocassionally and try and use it, but whoever called it a newbie distro is very much mistaken.

[jamesdodge]

I know the feeling. I have days where i want to pull my hair out when using both windows and linux.

There are times where i get so fed up that i have to take a long break from my PC altogether.

In linux, everytime i come back to tackle a problem, it's a bit easier though.

I've found that if you want to keep sane, you gotta treat it like learning any subject in school.
The more you work at it. The easier it will be.

Throughout the last 6 months, I've transitioned from XP as my primary OS, and Linux as my secondary, to Linux as my primary, and XP as my secondary.

My recommendation to you is to treat linux as a side project; A learning tool. Visit the boards when you have problems, try a few distros, grab some reference manuals on unix/linux. It may be time consuming, but i think you will find it very rewarding if you stick to it.

Laters, JamesDodge

[Hayl]

<yawn>

Originally posted by craiggiles
I have been trying to use Mandrake Linux (Newbie distro, yeah right) Its destroyed my pc and cost me alot of money on new modems and wasting time trying to find answers why it wont work, It could be just that I'm thick and have been using Windows and Risc OS for too long but I think its just linux.

um no. Mandrake and/or Linux didn't destroy your PC. YOU did. Linux doesn't do anything you don't tell it to.

If the linux distributers think theyre going to steel costumers off Microsoft theyre very much mistaken, they need to work on the GUI's more.

no. they don't need to work on their "GUIs" because they didn't develop them. Get your facts straight.

this kind of post is one of the MOST annoying. like we actually care what O/S you use. get over yourself.

/ignore

[craiggiles]

Get your Handbag out hayl:p

[Hayl]

<laughs>

:)

well really. and then you post another post on how you want to install Linux and want help.

geez.

:)

<not sure what the handbag comment means>

[craiggiles]

I may complain but never give up :p

[Hayl]

well don't f*ck-up your system this time :)

[craiggiles]

I'll try not too:)

[El_Cu_Guy]

This post reminds me of the typical arguments I used to read back when I used to read the dribble over at Adequacy.org.

Its destroyed my pc and cost me alot of money on new modems and wasting time trying to find answers why it wont work,

Now that's funny. You expect anyone here to believe that the OS "destroyed" your hardware? HAHA! Next you'll be telling us how linux screws up the MBR and which forces you to buy a whole new computer.

Two solutions to that one:
Stupid solution: just buy a new HDD
Good solution: FDISK/MBR

[deathadder]

<laughs>

Originally posted by El_Cu_Guy
Two solutions to that one: Stupid solution: just buy a new HDD
Good solution: FDISK/MBR

in my opinion mandrake couldnt b more userfriendly, it took me 30min to install and 15 to configure network, sound etc even though the nvidia drivers took a bit longer, different story there, when it comes to ur os its what you like

[bwkaz]

And... why can't you install kppp off your Mandrake CDs?

If it's because you didn't install KDE, then install that. Use Mandrake's software manager program thingy to do it, though, or you'll run into a ton of dependency issues.

[craiggiles]

I did install KDE but for some reason Kppp is not there on any of the disc, cos ive checked in the add software options under all of the sub name things and even done a search, so i installed dip and now ic ant find that.

Oh and ive changed my mind now Mandrake Linux is OK:):p

[CMonster]

iMac /1Ghz /17" flat panel/OS-X 10.2 -simply awesome, great for lazy gui users who just want a personal computer to work as an appliance

[Zyglow]

I never liked Mandrake. It may be easy to install, but I had a ton of problems building apps. It even gave me crap when I tried to compile a custom kernal. Last time I tried SuSe was 6.3, but I'm not going to throw down money for a free o/s unless it's in the form of a donation. I currently run Debian on one system, and RH8 on another. I haven't decided which one I like yet. But, like everyone is saying, try different distros and see which one fits you.

[devastator]

Well,
I've started with linux some weeks ago and I have to say that linux is much better than this microsoft ****.
The gui and everything else is better.(I use Suse 8.1).
I think that linux is very beginner-friendly if you read the tutorials which you can find in the internet.
cu Flo

[craiggiles]

Well im going to try Knoppix 3.1 on my desent pc before i decide if linux is crap, ill keep you lot posted:)


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[bs_texas]

When I first started working with linux, it's a good thing I didn't own a shotgun!

Yes, I came in with those preconceived notions brainwashed into me by my windows experiences, but hey, that's all we usually have as a starting point. (And I even wondered, which distro is best?) :eek:

Who was it that said, "Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead!"

Don't give up.

[Gunney]

Operating Systems do not "ruin" hardware.
9 times out of ten the reason most people are
disapointed with Linux is because they forgot the six P's:

Prior
Planning
Prevents
Piss
Poor
Performance

I always suggest that people first spend some time reading and putting together an old machine with older components first. Then install linux on that and learn about it for a while before you try and put it on your main box. Such a machine could be had for less than the price of a brand shiny new copy of Windows XP.

Gunney

[fancypiper]

Originally posted by bs_2003
Who was it that said, "Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead!"
Admiral David Glasgow Farragut in Mobile Bay during the Civil War. People today call them mines.

I remembered some U. S. Navy history from pre-flight.

[JamminJoeyB]

I started with Mandrake. I tried to install turbolinux first, but couldn't figure it out. I got Mandrake to install first time I tried. I started with 8.1. I just wish that they would put in big bold print on the start of the install CHANGE YOUR BIOS TO NON PNP OS. That solved so many issues it wasn't even funny. I just wonder how many newbies find that out the hard way. Mandrake always identified all my hardware correctly and never really had many issues with it. As metioned in an earlier post some things just didn't want to compile on Mandrake.

Ran mandy 8.2 then 9. Switched to Evil Entity for a while. Loaded Slackware 8.1 yesterday (still got lots of liitle tweaks to do). No real reason for the switch, I think I have become a disto junkie. Try it for a while, stick something different on. Maybe get brave and try the Gentoo thing next.

Opps forgot the reason I switched from mandrake. RPM Dependencies. Now I just go for source.

As Homer Simpson might say. MMM source is good.