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El_Cu_Guy
02-06-2003, 11:24 AM
As some of you know I dislike misinformation and complete BS (I am a former visitor to Adequacy.org). I really hate it when it invades sights which I used to view for quality information.

One such moron invaded osOpinion named Mike Berman. In his latest article concerning the Mono project he writes [again] as if the subject is brand new and almost as if he is the first to hear about it (which I mention in my response).

Well this "article" really got to me. Why? Because I had read it a few hours before MB submitted it to osOpinion.

Both articles were posted on Feb 3 however, the original was newsprint and puplished to the website long before it appeared at osOpinion. Linux.org even provided a link hours before it appeared there as well. The original version written by Justin Pope of the Associated Press and published by the Minneapolis-St.Paul Star Tribune is much more informative. Also as most people know newspapers are always printed the night before. Given the editors' (osOpinion) fast response whenever something is submitted it's not hard to believe that this was submitted shortly after MB had read the article elsewhere.

In my response I noted the plagarism, stating that it seemed MB had simply chopped the article and gone through it briefly with a thesaurus. If you read my response to the article you will notice that the entire paragraph where I mention this has been removed for editorial review.

Articles:

ORIGINAL (http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3626339.html) (edit: original version but not original posting)

Mike Berman version (http://osopinion.com/perl/story/20656.html)

If you want you can also visit MB's sad excuse for a tech wesite at jocgeek.com

Penrich
02-06-2003, 05:20 PM
How about this even more original original (http://www.msnbc.com/news/864039.asp?0dm=C15KT&cp1=1#BODY) from Jan 27 - word for word your original. (Both (c) AP)

vbp6us
02-06-2003, 06:45 PM
hehe...El Cu Guy, you have to be mad at your original now because the original for your original was found by Penrich...lol.

Your going to have a bad day. :D

El_Cu_Guy
02-06-2003, 11:10 PM
Not really. Both sources are AP member web sites. Apparently it's not uncommon for various members to run the same article within even a 2 week period.

Anyone notice that the Jan posting doesn't bother mentioning the author but does have a credit to the photographer?

I am surprised though that no one has mentioned the two articles and whether or not the MB version is similar enough to be considered plagarism. Even if osOpinion finds it not to be I still have another card to play.

I can poke fun of the fact that his website sucks and how no one reads his crappy articles there and that's why he submits them to osOpinion in hopes that someone will bother with them.

How bad are they? Well for one he always seems to believe he's the first to know. He alo loves to remind everyone how he told us so. Funny how I can't find this anywhere except old articles on his site. One such is his XP is great article. Yet on his website he bashes it repeatedly. He also talks about RC1 as it's the final version.

Stupidity--
"I shop online. And, a lot of times this means you have to fill out various order forms (written in a language known as CGI) or need to access a "wallet" that holds all of your personal information. "

Huh? CGI a language?

CGI script:
(Common Gateway Interface script) A relatively compact program written in a language such as Perl, Tcl, C or C++ that functions as the glue between HTML pages and other programs on the Web server.

sharth
02-06-2003, 11:19 PM
I remember reading about mono in the new york times's circuts section abuot 2 months ago ( i think)

El_Cu_Guy
02-06-2003, 11:27 PM
I remember reading about mono in the new york times's circuts section abuot 2 months ago ( i think)

You can find article dating back farther than that. Obviously you missed the point of the discussion. This thread centers around this latest article about Mono, not which one is the first to mention Mono ever.