fatboy
02-03-2003, 12:45 AM
Someone told me tonight that Mandrake is near bankruptcy...is this true? It may be old news but I haven't been reading as much Linux related news lately so I might have missed it. Thanks
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mister_math
02-03-2003, 01:02 AM
You can read the company's announcement here (http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2405).
BigFatJoe
02-03-2003, 01:31 AM
1. its old news.
2. its a "reorganization". they're not going under yet.
3. the distro will still be around. prolly. and if not, the kernel will still be around, so someone's bound to pick off where mandrake would end (if that be the case).
2. its a "reorganization". they're not going under yet.
3. the distro will still be around. prolly. and if not, the kernel will still be around, so someone's bound to pick off where mandrake would end (if that be the case).
vbp6us
02-03-2003, 01:48 AM
January 13, 2003
not that old. Old is like...like december 31, 2002 and earlier. :D
not that old. Old is like...like december 31, 2002 and earlier. :D
williamwbishop
02-03-2003, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by vbp6us
January 13, 2003
not that old. Old is like...like december 31, 2002 and earlier. :D
Hmm. Telling of the times. A hundred and 50 years ago it took 3 months for news to travel from the uk to it's outlying colonies. Now we consider any news older than 5 days to be out of date.
January 13, 2003
not that old. Old is like...like december 31, 2002 and earlier. :D
Hmm. Telling of the times. A hundred and 50 years ago it took 3 months for news to travel from the uk to it's outlying colonies. Now we consider any news older than 5 days to be out of date.
Okie
02-03-2003, 10:04 AM
i hope MadDrake does not die, i got a copy of mandrake-9.0 and it runs better than previous releases, and the mouse driver does not crash anymore, so when Mandrake is finally getting it together they go belly up. NO say it going to happen...
El_Cu_Guy
02-03-2003, 03:17 PM
Bankruptcy does NOT mean the company is going bye-bye. Look at TWA. Declare bankruptcy 3 times before being bought by American Airlines.
vbp6us
02-03-2003, 03:42 PM
True...
Man you would think software companies are successful these days. :rolleyes:
Im definitely going to get a copy of the latest Mandrake out and install it. :)
Sounds very similar to SuSE.
Man you would think software companies are successful these days. :rolleyes:
Im definitely going to get a copy of the latest Mandrake out and install it. :)
Sounds very similar to SuSE.
BigFatJoe
02-03-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by williamwbishop
Hmm. Telling of the times. A hundred and 50 years ago it took 3 months for news to travel from the uk to it's outlying colonies. Now we consider any news older than 5 days to be out of date.
I think my comment was spurred my the amount of identical threads/articles that basically "spammed" the internet, after the official announcement.
Hmm. Telling of the times. A hundred and 50 years ago it took 3 months for news to travel from the uk to it's outlying colonies. Now we consider any news older than 5 days to be out of date.
I think my comment was spurred my the amount of identical threads/articles that basically "spammed" the internet, after the official announcement.
fatboy
02-03-2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by BigFatJoe
1. its old news.
2. its a "reorganization". they're not going under yet.
3. the distro will still be around. prolly. and if not, the kernel will still be around, so someone's bound to pick off where mandrake would end (if that be the case).
1) I said it was probably old news and that I haven't been around to read much linux related news
2) Again, I was just repeating what was told to me. And I'll add that I've never been through a reorganization that ever did anything very positive for a company. Not that it's not possible
3)Again, it really won't matter what's left around since it most likely will not recover in time to keep up it's current pace of "progress"
Well, regardless, the best of luck to them!
1. its old news.
2. its a "reorganization". they're not going under yet.
3. the distro will still be around. prolly. and if not, the kernel will still be around, so someone's bound to pick off where mandrake would end (if that be the case).
1) I said it was probably old news and that I haven't been around to read much linux related news
2) Again, I was just repeating what was told to me. And I'll add that I've never been through a reorganization that ever did anything very positive for a company. Not that it's not possible
3)Again, it really won't matter what's left around since it most likely will not recover in time to keep up it's current pace of "progress"
Well, regardless, the best of luck to them!
sharth
02-03-2003, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by williamwbishop
Hmm. Telling of the times. A hundred and 50 years ago it took 3 months for news to travel from the uk to it's outlying colonies. Now we consider any news older than 5 days to be out of date. slashdot, old news is like 1-2 days :D Now thats a bit too quick.
Hmm. Telling of the times. A hundred and 50 years ago it took 3 months for news to travel from the uk to it's outlying colonies. Now we consider any news older than 5 days to be out of date. slashdot, old news is like 1-2 days :D Now thats a bit too quick.
Baldar
02-03-2003, 11:56 PM
On the news of Mandrakes problems, I started looking at other distros (Ive been using Mandrake for a very long time, and purchased every release I used). From what I have heard, Mandrake just has a crappy business model, and I'm through giving them money for their products, and them harassing me with requests for donations and joining their clubs weekly. I am glad I did start looking around though, because I found much better things out there. First off, I really liked Debian Woody, but the packages were a bit old for me, and I'm on dialup so upgrading was painful. I then discovered Libranet, and a few dollars later I have a Woody compatible system with updated packages. So even if Libranet goes under, its still debian at its heart, and I don't think we'll be seeing the end of Debian any time soon...
sharth
02-04-2003, 12:00 AM
Personally, I think that the whole idea of sellng a package that you can download of the internet legally is kinda bunk. :) Never really saw how it could survive. Now, what a company could do, is sell pure tech support, and then I think that they could get by. ;) oh well. my 3 and a half cents.
Baldar
02-04-2003, 12:18 AM
I don't see why other distro's can't look at Red Hats model and see that it works. The main difference between RedHats box set and the download is that you get support with it. Anything besides the installation, you will pay for extra support. They sponsor expensive certification classes and reap the profits off them. Companies want to use it since they know they can get someone on the phone, not on a mailing list of web forum. Last time I checked (a few weeks ago), Red Hats stock was double Sun Microsystems. I personally despise RedHats product. I do have a bit of fondness for it, since it was the first distro I used at version 4.something, but I believe the product has gone downhill. Now why a company cannot make a good solid distro without all the "specializations" that RedHat throws in, and copy RedHats business model is beyond me.
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