Waimea Help

[jdota]

I have just tried to install Waimea for the second and have not been able to get it to start up.
(I am running Mandrake 9)
The compile and install went fine, and Waimea is listed in the drop down menu on the Login screen.
But when I choose it and try to login the screen goes black for a second and the login screen comes back up?!?
I followed the install insructions at: http://www.waimea.org/lfs-hint/waimea.html

Does anyone have any info on what could be happening and how I could fix it?
(Any ifo would help)

[IRQ5]

I downloaded it out of curiosity to see what would happen. This may sound stupid, but have you checked your directories to make sure it's there? *g* The "configure/make" went fine for me too but "make install" screwed up because I forgot to su. So then I did and it looked like it installed and I tried to load it up and got nothing. I went looking and it wasn't in usr/local/bin. So I went back and ran "make install" again and that time it showed up in the directory and it loaded up fine. Which is weird because I can't get much of anything to run on my system. I don't know if I screwed up something or if it just didn't install right the first time. All I did was a change an .xinitrc line, so it wasn't anything fancy. Just try to make install again - maybe third time's the charm - or reconfigure and make and install the whole shebang. Maybe it'll work then.

And thanks - I got a new window manager to play with which makes 3 out of about 10 attempts. :D

[jdota]

At least it worked for you!!!
I'll give your suggestion a shot.
I'll keep my fingers crossed!

[jdota]

Tried what you said but it didnt work for me.

Do you know if I have to edit any other files inorder to make it work?

[linux12414]

Originally posted by jdota
Tried what you said but it didnt work for me.

Do you know if I have to edit any other files inorder to make it work?

Try editing your .xsession or .xinitrc file.

add this line:

exec waimea

put a # in front of the line that executes the present window manager.'

If you don't have either of those files, create it with your favorite editor, save it in your home directory and don't forget to put the period (.) in front of the filename (see above).

If you start up in the GUI, name the file .xsession.

[jdota]

Thanks for the info guys.

But I still have had no luck in getting to work.
Any other suggestions?

[linux12414]

One other thing to check:

Check the directory that waimea installed in (usually /usr/share), then check to see what path your login manager has for waimea.

Could be it's looking for the file in the wrong directory.

[jdota]

How \ Where do I check for the path listed in the login manager?

Thanks again.

[IRQ5]

Oh, I just processed what you said about logging in - I run at runlevel 3 and use "startx" so all I changed was adding waimea to .xinitrc and, like linux12414 says but I forgot to add, commenting out the other wm's. Seems like most apps write the config files into your home directories as well as the system defaults but waimea didn't - I just moved the appropriate files over - but that wasn't necessary to get it to load - just to configure it. Um... nah, I think that's all I did.

But it'd be different if you were trying to boot directly into runlevel 5 and have it load automatically. Try dropping down to 3, starting X from there with "startx" or whatever command your system has, and seeing if it will load up that way. If it does, then you know the problem is somewhere in the init files and not with the wm itself, at least. In other words, you'd know it wasn't a compile-type problem or compatibility issue.

As far as the login manager, I don't know about that either. *g* Although if you login and type "env" you'll get a path variable listed - if the directory waimea is in isn't on it, you'll need to change it - not sure of the syntax - this almost certainly isn't it but it's something like - "set path=$PATH,waimea directory". Check the man to make sure. Maybe that's what linux12414 meant. But actually, waimea should be in /usr/local/bin, I think. And that should be on your path, as well. But it's worth a shot. Good luck!

[jdota]

The saga continues:

- I tried changing the runlevel from graphical (5) to level 3.
-From there I tried to boot up waimea but it didnt work.
-So I then tried booting up gdm ( instead of the normal kdm ). It booted fine and showed waimea as an option.
-It started to login and I got as far as a blue screen that said "waimeawindowmanager" across the top.
-Then an error popped up saying:

Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk sapce. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.

-Then I clicked on:
"View Details (~/.xsessions-error file)"

and it says

" Running update menus...done
/usr/X11R6/bin/waimea: reclocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_Set_Hint_Flags "


Well this is where I am at now!!!
I have no clue what the error means (I am really new to Linux).
Any clues on what this could mean?
Thanks again.

[linux12414]

Did you enable XFT in the configuration?

[jdota]

How do I know if it is enabled?
If it isnt, then how do I enable it?

[linux12414]

Originally posted by jdota
How do I know if it is enabled?
If it isnt, then how do I enable it?

You would have done that during the configuration, i.e., :

./configure --enable-xft --enable-render, etc.

If you didn't do all the steps Waimea has on it's site -- http://www.waimea.org --it didn't complie properly (see "Installation" on the site)

If you didn't follow those steps (an follow 'em to the letter...I didn't and had to re-install it), re-install it.

[jdota]

I followed the install insructions to the "T", but still no luck.
Is there anything else that I could try?

[Switch247]

I'm in the same Boat as you, man. I have Mdk 9, and use a graphical login. I just installed Waimea, and do not now what I need to do to make it work. I use KDM or GDM, I know knot which. If it is GDM, then i have the GDM login editor, but there is no such thing for KDM, AFAIK. Will it just appear in the Drop down box or will I need to do sometthing?

Jake

[IRQ5]

Switch247 - Depending on the setup you may have something like /opt/kde/share/config/kdmrc which has a line "Session Types=" in it and you fill in the value with something like a desktop;another;this wm; that wm;. That'll make it show up in the graphical login so you can choose it. But it seems to ignore xinitrc as far as loading other apps with the wm, like having an xterm waiting for you when the wm starts up. The wm and it's configuration and menu files load, but not other apps, which have to be started manually. Maybe editing the kde init files as well would get everything going.

That may work for you.

jdota - it's possible you don't have the XFT stuff the app's looking for. I can't even remember what that is - does that have to do with weird fonts? Anyway - try compiling disabled if you don't have it or compiling enabled after you've gotten whatever it is. I didn't run any compile options - just did the straight shot, but different systems have different stuff.

Or did you mean you did recompile and that still failed? I'm kind of out, then. I've still got a few wm tarballs sitting around waiting for the day I figure out what they need - have you tried Blackbox and others? Waimea's a branch off the Blackbox code, I think, and not too completely different. Maybe that'll work for you.

[jdota]

Well Ive gotten a little further (with some help).
I have narrowed down the problem to the fact that when I run ./configure, it dosent find XFT but it still goes through the compile without any errors.
When I run:

pkg-config --modversion xft

it gives me the following:

Package xft was not found in the pkg- config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing "xft.pc" to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable.
No package "xft" found.

The thing is that I installed XFT from www.fontconfig.org, so I cant figure out what the problem is.
Anyone???


IRQ5:
I have Blackbox installed now, it is pretty cool, but I'm on a mission to get Waimea up and running. I.ve already started so I cant give up now!!!

[Switch247]

Thus Waimea. i cant get waimea to compile properly, i got some errors that killed alot of stuff. since i am a smart cookie, i decided that a nearly complete full reinstall would do the trick.(format all but the home dir in the setup) I am now sitting on a clean blackbox desktop, and want to install Waimea. I have the imlib2-1.0.6.mdk.i386.rpm file, and cannot get the thing to work correctly. I ./config --enable-whatever and then When it tells me that Something-Pesuedo is disabled, randr is disabled, and pixmap is disabled. The something-psuedo I'm not worried about, I don't know whre It's coming from, but the other two I want to work I still get errors in the "make install" step. I am su'ed, and I had the imlib2 rpm installed. now I have nothing, and would like to start from scratch with waimea.
Any hints?

Jake

[IRQ5]

jdota - Um. I'm a total newbie myself, so I'm not really sure about it all. If you do have the XFT it's looking for, but it's saying it can't find it, I think there's various options for doing what it says - about "Perhaps you should add the directory containing "xft.pc" to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable." - like I say, running configure with an option pointing it to XFT (--PKG_CONFIG_PATH=foo") or changing your overall path variable to include XFT's directory.

And I hear ya - some things I've tried for the heck of it and I'm willing to put them on the back burner but when there's something I really want to get working, I don't want to let go of it. :D

switch247 - ya lost me there, sorry. Maybe somebody else can pick it up - almost everyone would have to know more than me. ;)