quake 3 crashing

[100prcnt Marine]

i'm running in-to the same problem with every version of linux i have tried i can run the first training map and play but it crashes during the first spawn of every other map but i can play ra3 with no problem . i usually use my linux box as a lan server but it just one of those things that i must conquer i have athe linux drivers running and that doesnt seem to help (extended proficeincy in NVIDIA drivers for linux).


specs
celeron 667
geforce 256
256 ram sdram
mandrake 9

[100prcnt Marine]

did i mention i need help

[bwkaz]

OK, when it crashes, are there any useful error messages printed?

You do have to start it up from a terminal emulator, though, to see them.

[Lemmingz]

I had the same problem when I was using a sound card that used the sb sound module. Are you using an ess audio drive or sound blaster? try installing the alsa sound drivers for your card.
Buggy sound drivers will cause Q3 to freeze, but not Q2 or Q1. I don't know why
Good luck

[100prcnt Marine]

nope wasnt sound i give up..........NOT

[bwkaz]

Umm... so... have you tried starting it from a terminal emulator, and looking for error messages?

[100prcnt Marine]

oh yeah sorry no, no error

[bwkaz]

Any output at all?

[100prcnt Marine]

i set to the command give me a text file but it had no errors i will send it over on my next reply

[ALLYOURBASE]

Just wondering Marine how did you get your Open GL working, I think I have the same VIdeo card as you, what driver did you use?

[bandwidth_pig]

Since you are using the NVIDIA driver, you did opt to not install any of the other drivers that you were prompted to during the install? If you installed other drivers, this isn't going to work. You say there is no error...what exactly happens?

[ALLYOURBASE]

Very simple, i went to the Nvidiasite, went to download the right drivers, even used NV chooser,
Installed both the kernal and the glx driver.
I was going to restart my computer, it crashes. Then i had to reinstall Linux, MDK9 again.

P.S. It happend 3 times

[100prcnt Marine]

first: my system only crashes in quake3
second i will trie un installing all drivers and make a clean, if thats possible. and if so someone send instructions quick thanks

[ALLYOURBASE]

Have you just tried to reinstall Quake 3 arena, sometimes that works.

[steve301]

To uninstall the rpm's for nvidia drivers
rpm -e NVIDIA_kernel.rpm
rpm -e NVIDIA_glx.rpm

[100prcnt Marine]

thanx steve

also how do i remove the default drivers as well
if thats even needed

[bwkaz]

Originally posted by steve301
rpm -e NVIDIA_kernel.rpm
rpm -e NVIDIA_glx.rpm Actually, ... that almost assuredly won't work.

When you rpm -e something, you need to use the package name, NOT the filename. NVIDIA_kernel.rpm is not the package name.

100prcnt Marine -- you don't need to do anything to remove the other drivers. They're independent.

[100prcnt Marine]

ok this is getting frustrating

sorry for being so lame on on my replies

but over the holiday i installed red hat 8 and i installed the latest nvidia drivers and BAM!!! same thing.
but this time i noticeed when i added the 1.32 point release i got an error saying that the GTX and Gmodules were outdated how do i resolve that or is that even the problem?

geforce256
celeron 667
ecs dual board
256mb sdram
redhat8
nvidia drivers 4191

[bandwidth_pig]

Just to double check, you didn't install any of the other libs when installing quake right? It's been a while...I forget the exact options...but when you first run the install script, some of the libs are selected be default when you install. I could not get Q3 to run either until I unchecked those boxes because those files conflicted with what I was already running.

[100prcnt Marine]

yes i was sure not to use the mesa and voodoo stuffi dont think my open gl really werk at all because none of the screen savers werk so i prolly need to trouble shoot that ....?

[pl1ght]

Originally posted by 100prcnt Marine
ok this is getting frustrating

sorry for being so lame on on my replies

but over the holiday i installed red hat 8 and i installed the latest nvidia drivers and BAM!!! same thing.
but this time i noticeed when i added the 1.32 point release i got an error saying that the GTX and Gmodules were outdated how do i resolve that or is that even the problem?

geforce256
celeron 667
ecs dual board
256mb sdram
redhat8
nvidia drivers 4191


Have you tried the previous version of the Nvidia Drivers? I have heard, not experienced myself, that lotso of people are reverting to the previous version because of crashes/general problems with the newer drivers. Altho they have worked fine for me so far.

[Gaccm]

Ok, first test the Nvidia drivers. Just run glxgears and see if you get super high fps (like hundreds). If so, then the driver is installed and working.

second, try running quake3 +set developer 1 &>q3run.log and paste the output of q3run.log here.

3rd, have you tried the 1.32b version of quake3? it solved a problem I was having.

edit: here is a good page to read: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/

[dubbac]

I have the EXACT same problem that the original poster has on TWO different machines.
Both are RedHat based, both running Nvidia drivers. (Latest available for both installations).

The key here that I think alot of people are missing is that you can successfully play the intro level. HOWEVER, when you try to start Q3DM1 or any other leve BESIDES the intro level, the machine hangs as soon as you spawn into the map. I have to kill X to get out of it.

What I did notice is that running the developer option and piping it to a file is that there are a TON of textures that it says it can't find. I wouldn't think that this would cause a hang rather than just some really funky looking effects.
Has anybody fixed this?

Q3A with point release 1.32b for linux.

Nvdia GeForce 420....

(Runs perfect under debian unstable....)

[100prcnt Marine]

sorry i've been away so long on this thread (tdy to some hick town)
i got quake3 running stable. the problem is sound card first i ran quake without sound =success
then i stole my wifes soundblaster =success
i was using the ac97 sound drivers that came with my mobo


first try running quake3 without sound i cant remember the command. if that werks then go buy a popular brand soundcard or steal one from a family member running windows

[dubbac]

I finally found the command to run it without sound and it ran fine. The whole reason I never thought it was sound though was that you could play the whole first intro level. Must be something to do with format of the sound files in later levels or something. Only thing I can think of anyway.
About the sound card, I am kinda screwed. This is a laptop so I am going to try to get ALSA working on this thing to see if it helps. I've heard that it does, its just a pain to get working.