Gnome2 panel disappeared!?

[mcmanus69]

My Gnome2 panel (the top panel, the one that comes with it default) disappeared for some odd reason. How do I get it back? I can't seem to find any option to create new panels unless you already have a panel to right click on... any ideas?

[Aglavalin]

Open a console by right clicking on the desktop, then type 'panel'. Works for me :)

[mcmanus69]

actually, that's for a Gnome 1.x panel. A Gnome2 panel is gnome-panel (I found it).

But actually, I was a bit incorrect in my description of the problem. i do have a gnome-panel running (it's a sliding one on the bottom of the screen), however, in "help" it says that if I want to do anything with the panel, I need to right click on some empty space... but there is no empty space to right click on!

(since it is a sliding panel, it automatically sizes itself to however many icons you have, so if you delete an icon, the empty space that would have been there disappears and the panel is smaller, so there's never any empty space. and since I deleted the hide buttons on the ends, I'm pretty much screwed. IMO this is a pretty bad design... at least let there be a keyboard shortcut or something :( )

[Tony_big]

And here was me hoping somebody else was having the fun that I was.

This is what I've noticed so far.

If I boot the machine and logon on fairly quickly when the logon window appears the panel will fail to start. Leaving me with no way or opening / closing windows or any menus etc.

My solution at the mo is to go for a cup of tea while things sort themselves out. I'll try the suggestion above and see how things go.

Sometimes I get an error message telling me I don't have a gnome compliant manager running. It then tried to send a bug report to gnome. This is couldn't do.

I'm off to try KDE now. Any suggestions about removing gnome and starting again?

Tony