In the handy search box, type in Linux and hit enter. You will end up with a few different distros, and then all of the Loki games for Linux for $9.99 each.
Actually, it's $9.99 + shipping. Don't know how long the sale will be going on...
FoBoT
05-02-2001, 03:40 PM
thanks for the alert
i just ordered railroad tycoon 2 and myth II :)
jbstew32
05-02-2001, 05:27 PM
SWEEEEEET!
I just got Q3 Arena, Soldiers of Fortune, and Railroad Tycoon II!!!!
Muahahhahahahahaha! Let the Faggin Begin! :D
TheGimp
05-02-2001, 09:19 PM
erm fragging?
jbstew32
05-02-2001, 09:30 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!
LOL :D
Yes....definitely NOT fagging...
I meant Fragging!
</edit> Let the Fraggin Begin! </edit>
vvx
05-03-2001, 12:02 AM
I'm going to order probably 2 or 3 of these, which are the most recomended ones guys?
ph34r
05-03-2001, 08:42 AM
Quake3 adn UT you can use the windows version and get the linux binaries.
Descent3d is sweet looking, and Heavy Gear II is really neat too. SoF is good, but "just another FPS game".
If ya have bandwidth or patience, why not download the demos and try them out?
zaaj
05-03-2001, 09:33 AM
It's like Pokemon, you gotta catchem' all!
ph34r
05-03-2001, 09:46 AM
Ok, the wife said I could spend some $$, so I just ordered SoF, Descent3d, and HeavyGear II.
/me waits impatiently for the UPS guy to arrive
jbstew32
05-03-2001, 03:30 PM
I did dl the demos of these games...i like them all fairly well...
ph34: will that the version I got will only work in linux?? By what u said it sounds like they didnt make a linux version. I dont have the windows version, and it is 4-5x more expensive than the Q3A Linux that i just bought....
ecke
05-03-2001, 04:10 PM
Anyone from Europe ordered from ebgames.com?
Looks like the shipping starts at 35$ for overseas deliveries like Sweden. It's a shame. Oh well, have to order from tuxgames then, only 5$ from the UK, but a lot more expensive.
xd
05-03-2001, 06:00 PM
thanks so much, this made my day :)
anti_seen
05-03-2001, 08:12 PM
From what I understand these prices are in no way a good thing, basically this company is selling of it's invetory of Linux games and is not going to carry Linux software again. There was a story about this on linuxgames.com not too long ago. Anyone know different? Either way I bought SoF.
jbstew32
05-03-2001, 08:35 PM
yeah it does look sort of bad, but they may see the VERY HIGH increase in demand for these games and realize that there are ppl who want them...In the future, they may carry the games, but have a good sale on them (maybe 10% off or something). It's not over for linux games yet.....i hope
anti_seen
05-03-2001, 10:04 PM
But if there was a high demand when these games were $30-40 we wouldn't be seeing these prices. I think this will end up looking really bad on the Linux gaming community. It ends up making Linux gamers look cheap as in, "They wouldn't buy it when it was full price... but now that its 10 bucks we are selling out". This is a bad bad thing. Not trying to put anyone down here, like I said I bought SoF... but this should be looked at more like a *going out of business sale* and not *a really good deal*.
Bradmont2
05-03-2001, 11:29 PM
Damn.... I want descent3... I wish I had a credit card... :(
Molecule Man
05-04-2001, 10:28 AM
A going out of business deal is a really good deal.
Besides most of these games have been out for linux for over a year, and they were out for Windows twice as long if not longer. Of course they are not going to sell now, except to the bargain bin gamers.
Heck even loki is trying to get rid of their titles, if the 50% rate to lugs if you purchase ten or more is any indication. Most people should realize that most games have a fairly narrow window to sell, even more than other software.
zaaj
05-04-2001, 10:56 AM
I can't say for sure what the Linux $10 sale is all about but I can say most of those games were not part of that sale a few months ago and my local Electronics Boutique just got all these titles in where as they only had Heavy Gear II and HOMM III up until this time. If you feel bad about only paying $10 for each game, and you have the cash, buy a few copies of each game and just give them out to help Linux gaming advocacy. That's what I was going to do until I found out where I'm working is going to be closing at the end of the month :( . At least I got most of the titles. Just need Heavy Gear II which I will pick up locally.
ph34r
05-04-2001, 12:32 PM
jbstew32 - the linux cd for Q3 will work fine for windows, you just have to get the latest windows point release, copy the baseq3/pak0.pk3 file somewhere, and point the installer for the point release at that location.
jbstew32
05-04-2001, 03:30 PM
ph34r: thanks man, thats awesome news! Not that i am an avid windows gamer, but because i got to save so much $$$ on Q3A for windows which has been selling for $40-50
ph34r
05-06-2001, 12:25 AM
To use the Linux cd in windows, you just make a directory C:\quake3\baseq3 and put the pak0.pk3 file in it, then run the installer for the point release and you are ready to play!
nite
05-07-2001, 04:42 AM
oooh nice.. i think im gonna grab q3a :D
Droo
06-08-2001, 09:05 PM
Is SC3000 really only in that $9.99 list? I find it hard to believe b/c I think the Windows version is still in the 30's.
Craig McPherson
06-08-2001, 09:47 PM
Unfortunately, $10 is NOT the retail price. EB is, unfortunately, saying "We can't sell these Linux games we bought, so we're going to basically give them away to get rid of them."
It's sad that they didn't sell at retail prices. Recently I've bought most of Loki's lineup, but I got them at retail price to support Loki, because I don't want them to go out of business. Loki has released 100% of the commercial games released for Linux in the past two years, so if we lose them, we get no more commercial games....
Droo
06-09-2001, 12:14 AM
So are you saying I should feel guilty for ordering it then? :rolleyes:
FoBoT
06-09-2001, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Droo:
<STRONG>So are you saying I should feel guilty for ordering it then? :rolleyes:</STRONG>
i bought two
you shouldn't feel bad/guilty that ANY company doesn't have a viable business plan, you aren't the CEO
it is the owner/CEO of a business that is responsible for making their business work and be profitable, not the consumer :rolleyes:
a good deal is a good deal, order all of them!!
Xsecrets
06-11-2001, 06:11 PM
I don't know about the just selling out thing these sales have been going on for quite some time now and when they started those titles became their best sellers you think they would have run out by now if they were just selling off all they had unless they WAY overstocked. Also it's a welcome break to get the linux version cheaper than windows look at tribes2 I can get winders ver for under 30$ but linux is 50 and people wonder why gamers just stay with their windows boxen for gaming.
I Love NY
06-12-2001, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by ph34r:
<STRONG>To use the Linux cd in windows, you just make a directory C:\quake3\baseq3 and put the pak0.pk3 file in it, then run the installer for the point release and you are ready to play!</STRONG>
WOW! Bet id wants to keep that quiet :) If only my mom would let me buy it :P
Craig McPherson
06-12-2001, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by FoBoT:
<STRONG>you shouldn't feel bad/guilty that ANY company doesn't have a viable business plan, you aren't the CEO
it is the owner/CEO of a business that is responsible for making their business work and be profitable, not the consumer</STRONG>
I think it's something we DO need to be concerned about.
Of the 30-odd commercial Linux games published during the past two years, how many were published by Loki? 100%
How many commercial Linux games were there BEFORE Loki started publishing Linux games?
I seem to remember Quake 1 and Quake 2, and that's about it -- those might have been published by Loki also, I can't remember.
In short, how many Linux games were released in the past two years that were NOT published by Loki? 0
How many Linux games will we get per year if Loki ceases to exist? 0
If we want commercial games on Linux, we MUST support Loki. If Loki goes under like probably half the tech companies in the United States have done in the past year, we get NO more Linux games, ever. It will have been proven that nobody buys Linux games, and no company will ever try it again. Thus, we will never, ever, ever get another commercial Linux game.
Is that REALLY what you want?
If you want more Linux games, there is ONE thing that will result in you getting them: Loki making money. The more money Loki makes, the more games they can port. The more games they port, the more people will see Linux as a gaming platform. The more people who see Linux as a gaming platform, the more games Loki will sell, and the more other compies will consider publishing Linux games. It'll be either an upward spiral in which we get more Linux games, or a downward spiral, in which case we get done.
It's not really about Loki at all: it's about getting more Linux games. If we buy games from Loki, at a fair price, then WE get more Linux games. If we only buy from companies that are selling at a loss, or if we pirate the games, or don't buy them, then we DON'T get any more Linux games -- now, tomorrow, next year, or ever. It's that simple.
I recall hearing that Loki sells games to retailers for 65% or more of retail price. That means for a $30 game, retailers like EB pay at least $19 for each copy of the game. When EB sells the games they paid $19 for at $10 each, that means they're selling at a loss. Retailers only sell at a loss in hopes of getting customers to buy other, non-discounted items (unlikely in this case), or when they can't sell an item at an acceptable profit margin and want to get rid of it in a hurry.
Please don't buy Linux games that are being sold at a loss if you want more Linux games to be available in the future. Buy them at a fair price or they could be the last Linux games you ever buy.
FoBoT
06-12-2001, 10:38 PM
i started to type out a real smart @$$ response to craig
but , i erased it
i still don't feel bad about buying myth II or railroad tycoon II for $10 each
if something is on sale, i am not responsible for setting the price, and i don't feel bad about getting a lower price, i am a cheap b@st@rd
Droo
06-12-2001, 10:52 PM
Well my original question was mostly rhetorical b/c I think I am paying a fair price as it's a legal copy at market value. Either I pay $10 or don't buy it at all b/c I'm a cheap bastard too. :D
Craig McPherson
06-12-2001, 10:59 PM
You're free to feel guilty or not, it's a free country, but I'm free to disagree with you. I like to sometimes look beyond the immediate benefit and look at long-term potential. Buying a used car for $500 is certainly cheaper than buying a new car for $3000, and they'll both get you around town, but one year from now, the person who spent $500 probably will not have a functional car. To keep his cheapo car functional, he'll probably have to pay a couple thousand dollars a year, and even then the car probably won't last more than a few years. He'll pay more than the guy who bought the new car, and wind up with a car that won't even start. That's called a "bad investment."
You say "if something is on sale, i am not responsible for setting the price, and i don't feel bad about getting a lower price".
But you could just as easily say, "I saw that new game on a Warez server, and I'm not the one who put it there, so there's no problem with me downloading it for free."
Normally, I'd agree with that: however, if the company is the ONLY company that produces games you like and can play, and if the company's finance reports reveal that they're on the verge of bankruptcy, then downloading the game from the Warez site means you will NEVER get another game from that company again.
I'm not asking anybody to feel guilty, I'm asking you to feel SELFISH: how does it help you if the company goes out of business and you never get to play one of their games again? It doesn't, it HURTS you. Meanwhile, if the company DOES stay in business, you get access to all the games they produce in the future, which is good for you. It's 100% pure selfishness, and selfishness is good.
If you buy from EB, Loki doesn't get any money because EB has already paid Loki for the games. EB has basically stated that theyh're never going to restock these games: they're selling out, and that's it. So no matter whether you buy one of these games from EB or not, Loki gets ZERO dollars. You might as well just download the games from a Warez server and save the $10.
Whereas, if you buy from a business that IS going to keep selling Loki games, you encourage that vendor to buy more Loki games in the future. For a slightly higher price, some of the money you spend goes to Loki, who will use it to produce more games FOR YOU.
Your fierce lack of logic is frightening. You're no different than a l33t w4r3z d00d.
Droo
06-13-2001, 12:11 AM
Whoa, hold on. Since when is buying a game from EB equivalent to downloading it from a warez site? I evenly explicitly mentioned buying a legal copy!
Craig McPherson
06-13-2001, 01:41 AM
It's like downloading a copy form a warez site because it doesn't help out the company that published the game. EB is not going to buy any more games from Loki, they're just trying to sell all the copies they have. Buying a game from EB won't encourage them to buy more games from Loki, so your purchase doesn't help out the publisher of the game.
Meanwhile, if you purchase from a vendor like Amazon who plans to continue stocking Loki games, and you buy the last copy they have on hand, they'll buy more games from Loki to restock, which means YOU will get more Linux games in the future because Loki will have more money for development, and other game manufacturers will see Loki's success and get into the market also. This will set off a "domino affect" that causes more people to get into Linux as a gaming platform, which in turn causes companies to publish more Linux games, which causes more people to get into Linux as a gaming platform, and so on.
But only if you buy the games in a way that'll actually help the seller.
Do whatever you like with your money. But if you actually want to play commercial games on Linux other than the 30 that actually exist right now, you know what the right thing to do is.
Xsecrets
06-13-2001, 10:32 PM
It's not entirely correct that loki doesn't get any money from the games that you buy from EB the correct statement would be that loki doesn't get any MORE money. EB has already paid loki for the games so loki has gotten money for them, and if you really want to put a twist on it loki can show other poeple the tremendous sales their games have seen once everyone buys one from EB. I see your point craig, but you've go to admit the prices that loki is asking for some of the older games is quite high. I understand that this is because loki just got finished with the work, but as a consumer you can't help feeling ripped off. Hopefully as more new games come out with simotanius releases It won't seem so bad, like tribes2. Even though you can get win version cheaper the difference is neglegable and is well worth supporting the linux gaming industry.
Craig McPherson
06-14-2001, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Xsecrets:
<STRONG>EB has already paid loki for the games so loki has gotten money for them</STRONG>
Yeah -- EB has already paid Loki for the games, so buying the games from EB doesn't help out Loki! :)
If you don't feel the retail prices for the games are fair, and you wouldn't buy them for retail prices, then go ahead and buy from EB. It's better than not buying the game at all. A lot of people who wouldn't ordinarily buy the games ARE buying them from EB, and I consider that a good thing. But I think it's kindas scummy for somebody who could afford the full retail price, who thinks the full retail price is fair, and who would buy them at full retail price if it weren't for the sale, to buy them at the sale price instead of the full retail price.
It's just like software piracy: if you're w4r3zing software you'd never buy, or that you think is too expensive, then I don't have a problem with it. Nobody loses any money because you wouldn't have bought the software anyway. If you're downloading software that you would have actually bought if it weren't available for w4r3zing, then I DO have a problem: you're taking money from the company by acquiring for free something you'd ordinarily buy.
FoBoT
06-14-2001, 11:49 AM
so if two stores are selling the same ice cream (made by the same ice cream factory) for two different prices, i need to buy the more expensive ice cream, because the ice cream factory will get more benefit from me paying more?
this whole notion so totally contradicts my capitlistic/free market way of thinking that i don't really comprehend the argument/logic
guess i am too stupid to get it
i thought i was doing good to buy two linux games that i don't use/play, now i am a software pirate :rolleyes:
Droo
06-14-2001, 12:47 PM
Capitalist, communist--you just can't win with with Craig M. :)
[ 14 June 2001: Message edited by: Droo ]
Craig McPherson
06-14-2001, 02:28 PM
No, I'm saying that if the last icecream manufacturer is about to close up shop permanently, and nobody in the world will have ice cream ever again, you have to ask yourself which of the two options is more important to you:
1. Saving a few dollars now, but never having icecream again for the rest of your life, or:
2. Spending a few more dollars now, but being able to enjoy icecream again in the future.
You bloody Communists/Captitalists/Whatevertheheckyouaretoday make me ill.
FoBoT
06-14-2001, 02:35 PM
:cool:
now i understand, food analogies are the universal language! :D
Craig McPherson
06-14-2001, 03:54 PM
Thanks goodness.
I have saved another soul from a wasted life of Communism and no ice cream.
Super Bakemono
06-18-2001, 11:42 PM
I agree with Craig McPherson. And not only does Loki need support, but tuxgames.com needs support, so order away!
Craig McPherson
08-13-2001, 11:16 PM
Not that I'd ever say "I told you so."
But...
I told you so.
No more Loki. No more Linux games. Ever. Thank you very, VERY much.
pbharris
08-14-2001, 12:20 AM
Loki has filed for chapter 11. This means that they need to restructure and get more cash coming in.
Loki is awsome, the games are high quality and the tech support is excellent.
if you want soemthing for free then fine - but please don't ever ***** about things when there is not an equivlient device in linux to what you are using on another plattform.
i am sure there are going to plenty of people out there willing to vulture the remains of good companies like loki....
Siskmarek
08-22-2001, 01:58 PM
Upon seeing Loki games for 10 bucks, I thought, "Sweet!" But I'll probably end up ordering 'em from Loki instead to support 'em. About the only one I'll probably get is Quake 3 Arena and UT, even though XFree86 doesn't support hardware acceleration for my vid card (t'is Rage 128, but t'is PCI, not AGP). Just because it seems like Loki doesn't sell Q3A or UT any more. ='D
Originally posted by FoBoT:
<STRONG>i still don't feel bad about buying myth II or railroad tycoon II for $10 each</STRONG>
And I don't feel guilty about buying SoF for $10. I'm buying other Loki stuff at full price, but you know what? To me, SoF is a mind-numbing game, only good to blow off steam. Yes, I've played it before. That's the only benefit I see to playing it. I can pretend that those people are my supervisors ;) :D ;).
I ordered Loki's book from them directly, I've ordered other games from them directly, and I will order Deus Ex from them directly. I have no objection to paying even $60 for a GREAT game (I paid $70 for Zelda64 back in the day, because I wanted a gold cart- $10 extra). But I won't pay $50 for a *good* game. I'm making minimum wage, and only working 28 hours a week. I've gotta pay my car, and school. I can't afford to spend that kind of cash on a *good* game. Either I will order this game for $10 now, or I will not order it, period.
I believe in supporting Loki (I may buy Kohan from them, if I figure out what it's all about), and I will definitely buy Deus Ex. A fantastic game deserves that extra thanks.
But an 'ok' game? Don't think so, tim.
Craig: When was the last time you paid ben & jerry's prices for sav-on brands? Exactly. Not just a little more, FIVE TIMES MORE. For an inferior product, no less. I fully agree with you. And I would have got SoF for $50- if even I worked 40 hours a week I could afford that on mimimum wage. But not now. I am doing all I can; Loki is not the only one with cash-flow problems, y'know.
Linnew
08-24-2001, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by ph34r:
<STRONG>Quake3 adn UT you can use the windows version and get the linux binaries.
</STRONG>
I have the Windows version of UT. How can I get the Linux binaries?
:eek:
lsibn
08-24-2001, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Linnew:
<STRONG>I have the Windows version of UT. How can I get the Linux binaries?