Games laggy under WineX... whose fault?

[Siskmarek]

I've noticed that any games I play under WineX are laggy. Is this WineX's fault? I mean, I ping it in the server browser and it's low (30-50 ping).. I join a low pinging server and every time my ping shoots up to 300 and stays there. Like Half-Life especially... ping is low, but in game, ping is high..

[edit] forgot to add in that under Windows ping is nice and low.

~ Siskie

[ 18 January 2002: Message edited by: Siskmarek ]

[bwkaz]

I assume you're not on a modem. If so, then 300 pings aren't all that bad.

When you ping the server, the packet goes from you to the server, through its processor (well, sort of), then back to you. The ping listed in the game is from the server, to you, through your processor, and back to them. The only difference is whose computer/network card the information is passing through, so I'd concentrate on looking at that.

What network card do you use, and are there specific drivers for it either in your kernel or loaded as modules? I don't think your CPU would be slowing it down (since I think ICMP packets don't even get handled by the CPU, but I could be wrong). Do you have hardware rendering working, like is TuxRacer's framerate higher than 10fps?

[Siskmarek]

NO! 300 PING IS NOT ACCEPTABLE! *froths at mouth*

:D

But seriously, the problem only seems to be with WineX, so what else can I assume except WineX is a lagmaker?

I already understand everything about the pings 'n stuff. I have the hardware, and I have it set up properly, a cable modem, and all handles well online under Windows.

Also, all handles well online with games that play natively under Linux (Quake 2 and 3, and now RtCW). Pings that say 50 ping in the server browser tend to stay 50 ping when I join a game.

But with WineX?

Server browser lies. 50 ping equates to 300 ping or more when I actually join. Perhaps it's just the server? I don't think so. I join 10 or 12 servers before giving up on it. I also join servers that I know played well under Windows. No dice.

I guess what I want to know now is if anyone else has experienced this problem... just so I feel like I'm not alone... :(

~ Siskie

[bwkaz]

Have you tried WineHQ's wine? I know it will run Half-Life (in OpenGL mode, not D3D mode).

Which version of WineX is this? An RPM, or CVS? They've been making loads of changes to the CVS lately, you may have just gotten it at a bad time.

[Siskmarek]

It's CVS...

I've gotten CVSes before.. like a few months ago.. lag was still a problem.

~ Siskie

[bwkaz]

Well, I'm not sure what's going on right now with their CVS ... I just updated, and now Half-Life won't even boot up..... it just sits there, with ps showing a zombie wine process. The actual wine output says something about "holding level 2, expect deadlock", but it did that before, and without deadlocking.

RtCW is screwed up now too. It makes this mad clicking noise about once every half second.

I think I shouldn't have updated.....

[Siskmarek]

I was experiencing that weird clicking multiple times a second in RtCW, too. Framerates are also pathetic, too.. hovering around 15-19fps, even when I turn everything off.

I'm glad they released the linux binaries for RtCW... otherwise it would play like crap under Linux...

I'm not having any problems starting up games like Half Life.. but lag is still a problem, and RtCW just performed poorly and with that strange sound anomaly.

*shrugs*

~ Siskie

[bwkaz]

What video card are you using?

[Siskmarek]

GeForce 2MX 400

Latest drivers from nVidia...

~ Siskie

[bwkaz]

Well, sorry, but I don't really have any ideas. Maybe closer does? He's usually pretty good with Wine stuff...

[Icarus]

Are you using the latest drivers from nVidia w/ the kernal edit? Not sure how that would effect you pings though...have you checked for any daemons running in the background that use the internet? What disrto you on (or did I miss that somewhere...?)
I did miss that Mr. Mandrake user :)

I've been playing Half-Life for the past month or two using WineX (binaries) with almost no promlems...too bad Transgaming doesn't support source/CVS installs...

[ 22 January 2002: Message edited by: mahdi ]

[Siskmarek]

I'm pretty sure everything is set up correctly... no daemons or such are using the 'net, and if they were, I'd notice it on my little netgraph sitting in my taskbar...

*shrugs* Dunno. One of life's little mysteries. :eek:

~ Siskie

[Icarus]

Maybe you need to update your network card drivers?

[Siskmarek]

Why? Everything else works fine, it's just that anything under WineX is laggy...

~ Siskie