High school programming contest (pseudo-ACM contest)

[ndogg]

My college just finished up their high school programming contest here at University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh. Below is a link to where the results will be posted (we're on vacation right now, so the last thing we're thinking about is working on some damn web page). It's interesting to note that the time that took first place (and the only team to solve all the problems) had the most girls on it. The team that took second had (you guessed) the second most girls on it. The teams were in groups of three. The first place team had two girls on it, the second place team had one.

Anyway, the team named "Denatured Enzymes" (I think St. Francis HS) took first, then Bayport team 1, then you'll have to wait for the rest, because I don't remember right now, gotta pack to go home.
http://www.uwosh.edu/cs_club/activities/hsprog/2001/

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[Sterling]

Personally, I STILL don't understand why there aren't more girls in CS. I know a number who would've been really good at it, and probably loved it. Almost all of them went into other fields of study, either because they thought computers were boring or too complicated. Part of it, I think, has to do with the fact that parents still subconsciously tend to push their little girls away from technical jobs.

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[f'lar]

I may have to transfer to UW-Whitewater next year if I don't make enough money this summer.

[Paul Weaver]

Thats what sucks about the american system. We dont have top up fees yet, fortunatly, we do have to pay £1050 a year tuition though. Scottish students in scotland get it free. EU students in scotland get it free. English/Wales dont though.

Still, could be worse.

Anyway, when does the competition "end", as I still get a blank(ish) page when I go.

[shortfella]

The universities here in oz are great.

You pay around $US5000 a year which doesn't have to be paid until your in the workforce and only when you earn over a certain amount.

You can also leave home and get paid by the government to study.

Saves your parent having to go broke trying to pay for you.

This INCLUDES all the top universities in the country.

Maybe thats why on recent studies Australias education system was rated one of the best - ahead of US, England, etc.

Great to live in the sunburnt lucky country.

[nanode]

I graduated from San Diego State Univ. in May 2000. CA. state residents pay ~$900 USD each semester - which is for up to 18 units.

Of course there are other expenses I had to worry about, but over all, I thought I got a lot for the $$$.

[jemfinch]

Yeah, CA state colleges are incredible. I'm in a state college in Ohio (Ohio State University) and it's ~$1700 a quarter just for tuition (housing is an entirely different issue -- I think that's ~$6000 a year or so.)

That's about as good as an in-state student can get in Ohio. My goal is to keep my undergrad as inexpensive as possible in preparation for med school, where I stand much less a chance of doing so. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/smile.gif

Jeremy

[Paul Weaver]

The fairest system I would see would be you get a massive loan (enough to pay all tuition fees, not government subsidised like the UK), and housing, and normal day to day stuff, all at inflation linked, then pay it back once you earn enough money. Why should non uni students have to pay for people that do go to university?

MOsy people in the UK live away from home when at uni, and have single rooms. Reant here at exeter, including food, is between £80-90 a week, thats just under $150 a week, for 30 weeks, works out aat about $6000 a year + day to day expenses.

Oh, and you dont get thrown out of university if you have money problems either.

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[carwyn]

I wish I was a student in the days of the grant cheque though. When I started uni in `98 I had a mix of £800 grant and £2200 loan (I think). Now I depend entirely on the loan, plus some summer work to top up.

It's a real pain but I suppose it's not as bad as other countries. My parents aren't exactly in a position to afford to pay.

If I do a phd next year my sponsorship money will be more that my fathers wages!

Oh well!

[ndogg]

I don't know how this post turned into a discussion about tuition and who pays them, but...

In the US, almost anyone can get grants for college, but you have to start paying that grant off once you're in the work force.

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Too much Sun can give you cancer. Windows break too easily.
Apples/Macintoshes can rot. BSD... sounds too much like LSD.
Penguins are the only animals sophisticated enough to wear a
tuxedo.


Linux, the only one with the Penguin.


http://ndogg.n3.net

[kmj]

Originally posted by ndogg:
I don't know how this post turned into a discussion about tuition and who pays them, but...

In the US, almost anyone can get grants for college, but you have to start paying that grant off once you're in the work force.



not grants, but loans. Grants generally don't have to be payed back. And not everyone can get a loan. You have to have someone who can cosign. For most people this isn't a problem, and usually if you can't get a cosign, you're eligible for other aid. 'Course, there are some in the middle, who aren't eligible for aid, can't get "special" scholarships (me being bitter about being a white male, sorry), and can't get loans because of "unqualified co-applicants". I've put about $4000(US) on my credit card in the past 4 mos. Not a major deal, since I've gotten myself a decent job, so I can pay it down okay, but I've got more than a year before I get my Masters. And anyway, no matter what debt I get into, I'm confident that I will be able to get out of it when I've completed school.

[ndogg]

Loans, grants, scholarships, they're all forms of financial aid, the q is whether or not you need to pay them back. Sorry to hear about your problem, kmj, I don't have to worry about it quite as much, but some people still don't consider us to be as underprivileged as other minorities (I'm Asian, more specifically, I'm Filipino), but I still do get a few more opportunities.

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Too much Sun can give you cancer. Windows break too easily.
Apples/Macintoshes can rot. BSD... sounds too much like LSD.
Penguins are the only animals sophisticated enough to wear a
tuxedo.


Linux, the only one with the Penguin.


http://ndogg.n3.net

[kmj]

Originally posted by ndogg:
Loans, grants, scholarships, they're all forms of financial aid, the q is whether or not you need to pay them back. Sorry to hear about your problem, kmj, I don't have to worry about it quite as much, but some people still don't consider us to be as underprivileged as other minorities (I'm Asian, more specifically, I'm Filipino), but I still do get a few more opportunities.


Sorry didn't mean to whine;
I do think that having extra aid for certain groups is justifiable in today's society. I want to make that clear. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/smile.gif