web servers and t1 lines for the home

[A_dash_00]

How does one get connected up to the net like a college or university? What I mean is for example road runner in my area gives a new ip address everyday so you can't turn you comp into a web server. I would assume that non-business dsl's would probably do the same. So basically what are the options to own your own slice of the net and have your network and domain name attached to it?

[Fandelem]

usually, very very expensive. a "static" line (the type you are referring to is called "dynamic") can cost anywhere from 50 dollars to around 500, depending on your area (i'm unlucky- it's around 500 where i am hehe)

that just guarantees you an IP address. you're only halfway there. you then have to "shop around" to register your own domain name. for example, linuxnewbie.org is a registered domain name, they pay X amount of dollars per year to "use" it (X is usually around 15-30 a year, and "use" really means it's yours; no one else can just up and take it unless you don't pay upon renewal).

so, now that you have purchased a domain name from one of the many registers, and have finagled with your DSL/cable/etc provider for a *static* IP address, you are almost there.

You now need to either setup your own DNS server, that when a random user anywhere in the world types in yourdomain.com, it will know that yourdomain.com is really your computer. *or* i believe you can find a nice DNS service (free one, i mean) that will propegate(sp) your static IP address and the associated yourdomain.com to 'every' DNS server across the world. the latter tends to be less headaches, but i'm not 100% sure if this option works. someone else come flame me ;o)

hope any of this could be useful.

regards,

~kyle

[A_dash_00]

It was useful, thank you.

Now, though I take it it doesn't really matter what kind of line it is i.e. T1 isdn, dsl, cable or what as long as I can get myself a static ip.

In my area the cable provider changes your ip daily so that's out. I don't know about dsl specifically but from everything else I've learned they'll really hedge on giving you a static ip, and if they do they may swipe it from you , which would be bad. So I'm left with what isdn, T1, T3 and fractional T1's and T3's?

How in tarnation do mom and pop isps get their connection to the net. lol, maybe I should just go ask them =) they're in the phone book.

Thanks

[Fandelem]

let me clarify a few things:


In my area the cable provider changes your ip daily so that's out.


okay, first off, the *type* of serivce (cable, dsl, t1, isdn, regular 56k, etc) does not matter when considering a static IP address. basically, a static IP address can be provided by any ISP in the area. shop around. because they have *already* bought a block of static IP addresses, and what they do is "rotate" them around for all their DHCP (dynamic) clients.. and when someone like you comes along, who wants a static, they charge you more because that means they are one less DHCP IP address they can provide.

call all your ISP's in your area and see who offers the best deal.

~kyle

[Ryeker]

You won't be able to get T1 services in your home... :) It's a commercial line, so it's very expensive.

In my area, all the local DSL ISPs give static DSL and they don't care if I run Web servers. They do care is if you use their residential plans for commercial use.

[Fandelem]

well, technically you can get T1 if you *want* to ;o) and while we're on this subject, you basically pay for how much bandwidth you want. all T1/fractional t1/t3/etc really are classifications ;o)


and damn, i envy you if you can get a static IP ;o) they don't even offer dsl/cable in my area yet. i'm stuck on 56k heh.

bah! to hell with dsl and cable! hehe

~kyle