Will Vista kill linux through drm'd hardware?

[Chess007]

In order to work well (if at all) with Vista, video cards must have drivers which have content protection build into them. And there is a drm chip built into the video card. So, now we have hardware drm. That encourages hardware vendors to make such cards. Why? Because the majority of personal computers run Windows. So, if company x wants to sell hardware, they need it to work with Vista. (And if they don't need it to work with Vista yet, they will need to eventually.)

How does this apply to linux? Will hardware manufactures make any hardware which doesn't include built in drm? Imagine a motherboard with build in drm...the video card also includes built in drm... (this is not far fetched). How in hell will it run linux?? Will there be any hardware made that doesn't have built in drm?

[E1PHOTON]

I believe we'd run into anti-trust issues with this.

[XiaoKJ]

1st, linux does have drm supporting patches.

2nd, DRM in the hardware will not mean it must be used immediately.

3rd, I don't think hardware vendors will want to take the extra step to limit their possibilities. As of today, they are merely unwilling to cooperate with linux, not actively hampering linux.

4th, hardware isn't free. manual cars are still being sold today for the fact that they are a few hundred USD cheaper than auto ones. DRM chips will raise costs.

[Exodus2001]

Will Vista kill linux through drm'd hardware?

Will drm'd hardware kill Vista and promote Linux?

I altered your sentence a bit. I hope it was GPL.

[Chess007]

Not a fan of Windows at all, just asking some honest questions...

Its my understanding that in order for hi def dvd to work, vista requires a video card with a built in drm chip. This is so the quality can be reduced.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#response

Theres also the question of making drivers for linux; if its even possible for such video cards.

“The internal workings of the graphics chip must be kept secret, such that a hacker building an emulator could not find out the required information”.

[asarch]

Don't worry. :cool:

Somebody else has already worry about this and is currently working to prevent this situation.

Check what they are been doing (read all the lyrics): ;)

Release Songs (http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html)

Anyway, if this could happened we have to start buying just only south corean hardware... :D

[saikee]

Each extra step Vista took to dominate the PC market is actually another nail into its coffin.

Not only it doesn't work with the majority of the current hardware it also will never work with some established hardware that are still being sold but have since had newer versions.

[Konan]

I have thought about this for quite a while and have been half expecting a push for hardware DRM in motherboards and CD/DVD drives. It is no secret that the RIAA and MPAA would love to have the US Congress mandate locks in the hardware they they could switch on and off at will. And it could happen. If anybody doubts this, remember how easy it was for them to get Congress to require macrovision to be built into all VCR and DVD players. MV is easy to kill or circumvent, if you are in to that sort of thing, mainly because it was required to be an add on after the fact. Kind of like MS trying to add security to an OS that was never written to be secure. But a from-ground-up, in-silicon DRM would be a much tougher problem.

However, Congress doesn't control the world and I suspect that such a mandate would not play very well in other parts of the planet. Fortunately, Linux is becoming a bigger player every day and eventually some manufacturer somewhere will make a line of Linux only hardware (and hopefully, tell MS users that they have to reverse engineer if they want drivers:)

I hope.

Konan

[wh666-666]

Will drm'd hardware kill Vista and promote Linux?

To be honest DRM and trusted computing, another issue entirely, will kill computing as we know it. Linux may become the only alternative for anyone who wants more than one choice of software or hardware to function correctly.

[blackbelt_jones]

Case in point, an article on trusted computing (called palladium at the time) is why I took up Linux, four and a half years ago.