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mhacleth
05-03-2005, 08:17 PM
Dear Friends,
I have just read and signed the online petition:
"The Linux Printer Driver"
hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/YALB1975/
I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.
Best wishes,
mhacleth;)
JamminJoeyB
05-03-2005, 08:51 PM
going to play the devils advocate here.
Have you spent much time over and www.linuxprinting.org?
That data base has a very large selection of printers and thier status with how well they work (or don't) in linux.
I believe as you that vendors should support linux better, but until more corporations and countries are deploying linux on a larger scale it will be tough to get the vendors to take notice.
Linux on the desktop is hapening slowly. Until there is at least a 30% market take up of linux on the desktop the vendors have to concentrate on the majority. After all those companys only have to listen to stock holders and the board of directors. Companies will follow the dollars after all.
BaVinic
05-04-2005, 01:24 AM
I don't personally feel any petition is going to do any good, if it is not followed by a dollar sign, most companies will ignore it, there is no profit in it for them.
having said that, I have to add that most printers DO already work in Linux, either with native drivers ( meaning provided by the manufacture) or through the work of others. so really, this petition would be pointless.
That's my opinion.
BaVinic
mhacleth
05-05-2005, 09:23 PM
hey guys,
thanks for replying. that means you read this post :D
thanks also for giving your opinions as we are all entitled to have our own.
come to think of it:
1. if all people who read this would think as you two think, then i guess petitions are pointless; and not to mention *pathetic* :)
2. however, if you two would just simply sign-up the petition, as well as those who would read this, i guess we can make some point.
Both of you mentioned market share (at least 30%) before these companies turn on their "hearing aids". :) Well, what are you waiting for? Would you like to be counted with 30%? I guess having petitions such as these can give printer companies "hard numbers".
Mhac;)
I do appreciate the guys at linuxprinting.org for their *hard job*. They have given their time and talents for the good of all. And the printer data base is indeed growing there. But wouldn't it be nice if my printer would work *out of the box* with Linux just because some software company included a linux driver with it? or has provided linuxprinting.org with the driver? That would surely be nice.
Getting Canon LBP800 to work is a pain in Linux. I have to reboot to XP or Win98 to get something printed.
And yes, I checked linuxprinting.org for this and here's the result:
$--------------$
Canon LBP-800
BW laser printer, max. 600x600 dpi, this is a http://www.linuxprinting.org/linuxno.pngPaperweight
$--------------$
And according to them:
$--------------$
Paperweighthttp://www.linuxprinting.org/linuxno.png
These printers don't work at all. They may work in the future, but don't count on it.
$--------------$
bsm2001
05-05-2005, 10:26 PM
Personally I buy HP printers and no need to sign a petition.
Research hardware before buying.:rolleyes:
mhacleth
05-05-2005, 10:33 PM
It's always hard to generalize :D
There are two edges to this.
You mentioned the first one. How about mentioning the other side of it?
Researching Printers before buying is a good preventive measure.
How about the recent linux *converts* that already had the hardware all along? What is a good corrective measure for that?
And yes, explain that to a newbie you are trying to get away from Windows
:p
BaVinic
05-05-2005, 10:47 PM
Canon has alway been a hard sell on Linux, for any item, scanners, printers etc. not the best product for a linux user, although a lot of the scanners and printers do have Linux drivers, just none from Canon directly that I know of.
I will stand by my orignal statement that patitions are useless for the most part, and I personally would not sign one. as to Windows Converts, with any change, comes change, so they can either write their own drivers, search for some already available drivers, or sell the old hardware, and buy, known working hardware. it is a rough road, changing from Windows to Linux, no one said it was going to be easy.
It's not about "easy" it's about choice.
BaVinic
bsm2001
05-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by mhacleth
It's always hard to generalize :D
There are two edges to this.
You mentioned the first one. How about mentioning the other side of it?
Researching Printers before buying is a good preventive measure.
How about the recent linux *converts* that already had the hardware all along? What is a good corrective measure for that?
And yes, explain that to a newbie you are trying to get away from Windows
:p
also look at it like this you get what you pay for.
mhacleth
05-05-2005, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by bsm2001
also look at it like this you get what you pay for.
That's right. You got it there brother. :D
Mhac