Athlon XP 2000+ vs. Athlon 64 3000+

[bs_texas]

If I replace my AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 1.7Ghz with an AMD64 3000+ 1.8Ghz will the performance increase make my eyes fall out? ;)

(The 3000+ is the cheapest 64bit, 939pin cpu at newegg)

[bwkaz]

Err, yes... ;)

The Athlon-64 3000 is (slightly) faster than the Athlon XP 3000 for 32-bit programs, so yes, it'll be a lot faster than the Athlon XP 2000. :) If the same programs are recompiled to be 64-bit, it'll be even faster (because there are so many more registers available).

(This is where Intel screwed up with IA-64. Their 32-bit emulation code was a lot slower than the fastest 32-bit Pentium chips, and nobody moves all over to a different architecture all at once.)

Note, though, that you won't be able to use your current motherboard. Not sure if you knew that already or not...

[bs_texas]

Originally posted by bwkaz
Note, though, that you won't be able to use your current motherboard. Not sure if you knew that already or not...
Hey, thanks. Yeah, I knew that. And I'll also need new memory, PC3200 instead of my current PC2700, possibly.
I would really like to get a faster system than this 2000+ system I have (which is plenty fast until I start playing games.) And I'm trying to find a least cost way to get a significant increase. I saw the 3000+ at newegg for $146 dollars. And a 939 motherboard can be had for between a hundred and hundred fifty, or so.
I would prefer to get a 4 or 5 hundred dollar screamer cpu, but that'll have to wait until I get another job. That would also be the determining factor for getting a new 6800 graphics card to replace my Geforce4 Ti.

[madcompnerd]

I'd recommend an athlon 64 too; until intel pulls it's pants backup they have no good desktop chip. Note: I'm not anti-intel; I just think Prescott is rediculous.

[Bubba56]

Just got AMD 64 3200+(socket 939 90nm core), Asus A8V Deluxe and 1GB cosair pc3200 from Newegg for $432 I thought was nice deal. I had a Athlon 1700+ on an Asus A7V8X-X with 1GB mixed heritage ram and it is a VERY noticable difference. WoW is my poison of choice atm, and don't kill me but the new box is all XP, old one will move to Linux, but is similar to what your looking at replacing and YES very noticable upgrade. Good luck and happy building.

[madcompnerd]

Unless you're a real power user, the difference won't be as noticable as with XP ;) (because your hardware is probably working better than his was). But you should notice a good difference; it's probably three times faster (excluding the hard disk) than your present system. Of course that varies depending on task, but my general experience is that we're a bit behind the Moore curve lately (and having trouble making as much difference with it as we used to), and there's about a 3 year difference between the processors!

[The Whizzard]

I'm kicking myself in the rear.

It was over a year since I bought computer hardware. My machine was a 1.8 GHz P4 on a Soyo SY-P4S645 Dragon Lite mobo with 1GB Ultra PC-2700 DDR and 80GB Seagate ATA133.

This past Thursday my new stuff comes in. I was very excited. For about $500 I got an AMD Athlon 64 2800+(socket 754..arrgh!!) on a Asus K8N-E Delux mobo with 1GB Kingston PC-3200 DDR and 120GB Seagate SATA150. I thought it was a good deal at the time, now I'm thinking I should have spent a few extra $$ to go with a Socket 939 A64 CPU and mobo.

I don't see any performance increase during normal operation and only minimal increase in video encoding(which is why I opted for the A64 in the first place). Mind you, I've only used Win XP Pro and the RC2 version of Win XP Pro x64(with the 64-bit drivers for my hardware) with my new system. Granted, both systems are 1.8 GHz but shouldn't the A64 kick the crap out of the P4...even in a 32-bit OS?

I haven't used Linux in native mode for quite a while (I'm a big fan of VMWare) and I'm about to install 64-bit Linux, preferably Debian Sarge. Is IA-64 also for the Athlon 64, or is it only for Intel 64 chips?

[psilo]

No IA64 = Itanium. You need the AMD64 port. It's unofficial but that's based on politics rather than technical achievement. It's hosted on:

http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/

you should read the faq. especially about running 32 bit apps.