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svetho
02-01-2005, 02:44 PM
Let's post some favorites and least favorites here to see the preferences of other users. Here are a few category suggestions:
I. Operating system
Favorite: Linux/FreeBSD
Least favorite: DOS/Windows (any version)
II. Window manager
Favorite: Window Maker
Least Favorite: KDE
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: Perl
Least favorite: Python/Basic/HTML (if markup languages count)
IV. Editor
Favorite: Vi
Least favorite: Emacs
V. Indentation width
Favorite: 4
Least favorite: Anything more or anything less than 4
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: SuSE
Least favorite: Haven't tried anything else yet (okay I tried Debian once but that was a *long* time ago)
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: Larry Wall
Least favorite: Richard Stallman
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: www.perl.com
Least favorite: www.dina.dk/~abraham/religion/ (this is an evil sect in mockery of the holy Cult of Vi)
I think this should be enough for a start ;-). Looking forward to read other opinions.
I'd be interested to hear why you consider Python to be your least favorite language. I mean, come on, this is a Linux forum, you could have at least said something like VB or C# :)
svetho
02-01-2005, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by stoe
I'd be interested to hear why you consider Python to be your least favorite language. I mean, come on, this is a Linux forum, you could have at least said something like VB or C# :)
;) I don't, like, hate Python. It's just that I tried it once and it didn't work for me. I don't like the idea of absolutely having to indent my code in some way to make my programs work. That's just not how my mind works. If I want a different indentation on a line because I think my code thus becomes clearer I want to have the opportunity to do so. Also you could never get this sexy line noise feeling with a Python script.
I never used VB or C#, so I cannot say that I dislike them.
If Python works for you, that's fine and there are a number of excellent Python scripts out there (just think of getmail). I'm just not comfortable with it.
Ok, fair enough, just was curious about why. To get this thread back on topic, here's my favorite list:
I. Operating system
Favorite: GNU/Linux
Least favorite: None
II. Window manager
Favorite: Openbox
Least Favorite: Fluxbox
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: C and Python
Least favorite: Perl
IV. Editor
Favorite: vim
Least favorite: edit
V. Indentation width
Favorite: in c \t, in python 4 spaces
Least favorite: none specifically, just generally dislike inconsistently indented code.
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Gentoo
Least favorite: Red Hat / Fedora
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: Steve Jobs
Least favorite: Darl Mcbride
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: slashdot
Least favorite: msdn.microsoft.com
IX. Favorite Web Browser
Favorite: Firefox
Least Favorite: IE
X. Favorite Terminal Emulator
Favorite: rxvt-unicode
Least Favorite: None
XI. Favorite Monospace Font
Favorite: bitstream vera sans mono
Least Favorite: courier
eskiled
02-01-2005, 06:28 PM
I. Operating system
Favorite: Certainly not GNU/Linux...
Least favorite: Windows (98), I really dont think XP is that bad if you keep it updated...
II. Window manager
Favorite: Fluxbox
Least Favorite: Enlightenment
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: n/a
Least favorite:
IV. Editor
Favorite: notepad (windows :o )
Least favorite: vim
V. Indentation width
what does this matter lol :p
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: havent tried enough to pick one yet
least favorite: suse
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: n/a
Least favorite: n/a
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: justlinux.com
Least favorite:
IX. Favorite Web Browser
Favorite: Firefox/mozilla
Least Favorite: IE
X. Favorite Terminal Emulator
Favorite: konsole/xterm
Least Favorite: rxvt (duno why just dont like it)
XI. Favorite Monospace Font
Favorite: garamond (is that monospace?)
Least Favorite: arial (is that monospace?)
:)
eskiled
MadMartin
02-01-2005, 06:43 PM
I. Operating system
Favorite: GNU/Linux...
Least favorite: Windows ME
II. Window manager
Favorite: Fluxbox
Least Favorite: KDE
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: n/a
Least favorite: n/a
IV. Editor
Favorite: vim
Least favorite: emacs
V. Indentation width
what does this matter lol
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Slackware
least favorite: Red Hat
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: n/a
Least favorite: n/a
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: linuxtoday.com
Least favorite: n/a
IX. Favorite Web Browser
Favorite: Firefox
Least Favorite: IE
X. Favorite Terminal Emulator
Favorite: aterm/xterm
Least Favorite: n/a
XI. Favorite Monospace Font
Favorite: Courier 10 pitch (is that monospace?)
Least Favorite: arial (is that monospace?)
IsaacKuo
02-01-2005, 07:28 PM
I. Operating system
Favorite: Amiga OS
Least favorite: CP/M
II. Window manager
Favorite: kwin (KDE)
Least Favorite: Microsoft Windows (the original one)
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: Java
Least favorite: Visual Foxpro
IV. Editor
Favorite: z
Least favorite: pico
V. Indentation width
Favorite: 1
Least favorite: tab (grr...tab damage...grr...)
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: anything dpkg
Least favorite: anything rpm
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: John Carmack
Least favorite: Steve Balmer
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: this one
Least favorite: that one
davisfactor
02-01-2005, 07:58 PM
I. Operating system
Favorite: Linux / OpenBSD
Least favorite: Windows NT 4.0
II. Window manager
Favorite: Fluxbox
Least Favorite: KDE
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: BASH / PHP (the only two I know)
Least favorite: Lisp/Scheme (I had this as a class at UT and hated it)
IV. Editor
Favorite: Vi
Least favorite: Emacs
V. Indentation width
Favorite: 4
Least favorite: Anything more or anything less than 4
I totally agree with this so I'll use it as well
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Debian
Least favorite: Redhat (I haven't used FC so I can't comment on that one)
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: N/A
Least favorite: N/A
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/security/investigator/
(This guy writes little stories to describe his case files and they can get quite interesting. I recommend starting from the beginning and reading to the most current)
Second Favorite: Google!!!11one
Least favorite: N/A
IX. Favorite Web Browser
Favorite: Firefox
Least Favorite: IE
X. Favorite Terminal Emulator
Favorite: mxrvt
Least Favorite: aterm
XI. Favorite Windows SSH Client
Favorite: PuTTY / QuickPutty
Least Favorite: I guess SecureCRT if I have to pick one, but I like it also (it's just not free) :)
XII. Favorite IM Client
Favorite: ntaim
Least Favorite: naim
davisfactor
02-01-2005, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by stoe
II. Window manager
Favorite: Openbox
Least Favorite: Fluxbox
What are the main differences between the two? I've never used Openbox but if it's better then I definitely want to check it out!!!
Originally posted by davisfactor
What are the main differences between the two? I've never used Openbox but if it's better then I definitely want to check it out!!!
1 - openbox seems leaner and less klunkly than fluxbox.
2 - the openbox code is not derived from blackbox in any way.
3 - i prefer the openbox method of handling configuration data; it uses xml based configuration files.
4 - openbox has a builtin "ALT-TAB" style menu.
5 - openbox shows a window's icon in the title bar and when 'ALT-TAB'-ing.
6 - the openbox look is nicer (in my opinion).
davisfactor
02-01-2005, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by stoe
1 - openbox seems leaner and less klunkly than fluxbox.
2 - the openbox code is not derived from blackbox in any way.
3 - i prefer the openbox method of handling configuration data; it uses xml based configuration files.
4 - openbox has a builtin "ALT-TAB" style menu.
5 - openbox shows a window's icon in the title bar and when 'ALT-TAB'-ing.
6 - the openbox look is nicer (in my opinion).
Hmm, maybe I should check it out then.
Although, I like the feel of Fluxbox's config files :)
Thanks.
Syngin
02-01-2005, 11:16 PM
I. Operating system
Favorite: Linux (Debian and variants)
Least favorite: Mac OS
II. Window manager
Favorite: None
Least Favorite: Gnome
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: PHP
Least favorite: Javascript or Actionscript
IV. Editor
Favorite: nano
Least favorite: Emacs
V. Indentation width
Favorite: 1 tab
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Debian
Least favorite: Slackware
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: Sergey Brin (Google)
Least favorite: John Dvorak
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: JustLinux and TechRepublic.com
Least favorite: Slashdot
habibbijan
02-01-2005, 11:20 PM
I. Operating system
Favorite: OS X
Least favorite: Windows 98/ME
II. Window manager
Favorite: Enlightenment
Least Favorite: ?
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: Bash
Least favorite: ?
IV. Editor
Favorite: Vi
Least favorite: Emacs
V. Indentation width
Favorite: 4
Least favorite: Anything other than 4
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Arch
Least favorite: Slackware (no flames please, just my current opinion)
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: Steve Jobs
Least favorite: Steve Ballmer
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: www.extremetech.com
Least favorite: ?
leonpmu
02-01-2005, 11:30 PM
I OS
Fav : *nix (includes OSX)
Least : Windows ME and XP
II WM
KDE
Windows, Gnome
III N/A
IV Editor
vi
emacs
V N/A
VI Distro
SuSE
N/A - they all have their place, or they wouldn`t be there right??
VII Celeb
Linus nd all the open source programmers, big n small
Darl McBride, Bill Gates
VIII Website
Justlinux, eweek, toms hardware, groklaw
msn, sco, *microsoft
IX Browser
Opera, Mozilla
IE
X Terminal
use Konsole mostly, but don`t really care...
XI SSH Client
konsole ;D
XII IM
Skype, yahoo
MSN
hmmmm, ad trend there methinks *shrugs*
edited because some were left out...
Parcival
02-02-2005, 07:01 AM
I. Operating system
Favorite: Any Unix bastard
Least favorite: Windows ME
II. Window manager
Favorite: kwin/KDE for desktops, fvwm for servers
Least Favorite: Gnome
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: PHP
Least favorite: none found yet
IV. Editor
Favorite: Vi
Least favorite: Emacs
V. Indentation width
I don't care
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Gentoo
Least favorite: Debian
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: Linus, of course
Least favorite: Bill, of course
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: heise (http://www.heise.de/)
Least favorite: slashdot
IX. Favorite Web Browser
Favorite: Firefox
Least Favorite: IE
X. Favorite Terminal Emulator
I don't care
XI. Favorite Windows SSH Client
I don't need any
XII. Favorite IM Client
Favorite: Adium
Least Favorite: MSN Messenger
deathadder
02-02-2005, 09:37 AM
I. Operating system
Favorite: Linux
Least favorite: Win 9x
II. Window manager
Favorite: Gnome
Least Favorite: dont really have one
III. Programming/Scripting language
Favorite: C/Java
Least favorite: VB
IV. Editor
Favorite: vim
Least favorite: emacs
V. Indentation width
As long as its readable I dont care
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Debian
Least favorite: Red Hat/ Fedora
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: Linus
Least favorite: Darl McBride, Bill Gates
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: here
Least favorite: Dont really have one
IX. Favorite Web Browser
Favorite: Firefox
Least Favorite: IE
X. Favorite Terminal Emulator
dont care
XI. Favorite Windows SSH Client
putty
XII. Favorite IM Client
Favorite: Gaim
Least Favorite: n/a
blackbelt_jones
02-02-2005, 09:58 AM
I. Operating system
Favorite: Linux
Least favorite: Windows XP
II. Window manager
Favorite: Gnome
Least Favorite: Possibly Fluxbox, but FB ain't bad. Can't think of a Window manager I actively dislike
III. Programming/Scripting language
Not there yet
IV. Editor
Favorite: Gedit
Least favorite: Vi
V. Indentation width
This question can not possibly be as geeky as it sounds. Oh, sure it can!
VI. Favorite distribution
Favorite: Sarge
Least favorite: CaOS
VII. Favorite IT celebrity
Favorite: Linus Torvalds
Least favorite:(duh) Darl McBride
VIII. Favorite IT related website
Favorite: justlinux.com
Least favorite: Don't really think about it all that much.
To which I would add:
Favorite Live CD: Kanotix
Least favorite: Berry Linux
Favorite Innovation for 2004: Debian-installer
Least favorite: Fedora Core 3
Most underrated distro: CentOS
Most overrated distro: Ubuntu
Favorite Web Browser: Mozilla Navigator
Least favorite: Maybe Internet Explorer, but it's been so long since I've used it, my impressions may no longer apply.
svetho
02-02-2005, 11:41 AM
Cool how fast that thread developed. Since there are some new categories, I might just join in again...
Favorite web browser: Opera
Least favorite web browser: Netscape
Favorite IM client: gaim
Least favorite IM client: ICQ/MSN
Favorite terminal emulator: wterm, xterm
Least favorite terminal emulator: konsole (it's too slow on my system :-\)
New category:
Most underrated webbrowser: IE (honest, I think it's not as bad as they usually make it. In fact when I'm working under windows and Opera's not available I use the IE)
Most overrated webbrowser: Firefox (Opera appears to be faster to me, but that might be system dependant)
Note to least favorite IT celebrity:
If we're just talking about programmers here, I might add Bill Gates. But in general I don't dislike him. He's a great entrepreneur (no one can deny that) and a nice enough person (okay, I think now I've gotten the wrath of at least half of the board members ;), please no flaming, it's just my opinion)