Ximian: How to install

[The Coder]

I have Suse 9.1 Pro. I am trying to install Ximian from the included DVD. I am not sure how to do this. The DVD from novell has the Ximian .iso on it. How do I install from this?

[CoffeeMan]

Ximian what, (Evolution? Desktop?)
be more specific.

[The Coder]

Sorry, Desktop.

[Icarus]

It's an .iso file on the DVD, how odd

I found the easiest way to install the Ximain Desktop was to use their Red Carpet installer, this would handle any additional dependancies and whatnots (although it overides all other Gnome base apps)

I'm not sure how they want you to install from an iso, but there are ways...
There has to be a README file or something around where that iso is that explains what to do (my guess is there is a seperate installer that will mount and install from that iso)

[The Coder]

Oh, so there is an installer that might use the iso? I don't seem to have that installer. Also I read the readme file and pdf that came with the CD, but they were useless. This CD I have is the official SUSE CD from Novell. I thought they would include an installer. Any suggestions on what to do? I went to the Ximian site and it makes no sense to me, can't find anything usefull, just lots of marketing.

[Icarus]

Is that the 9.1 Pro DVD LiveCD they were giving out earlier this year on 3 DVD's?

Try this, took some digging around the site though...
http://www.novell.com/documentation/ximian/index.html?page=/documentation/ximian/desktop_user_guide/data/bqjn7sw.html

[The Coder]

Yes that is the one, the 3 free DVDs. I also found these instructutions but there is no go-ximian file.

[Icarus]

Does it let you mount that iso off the DVD?

mount -o loop /mnt/cdrom/ximian-whatever.iso /mnt/tmp

or does it complain aobut too many mounted filesystems?

I have a feeling that the go-ximian is in that iso...

You may need to cpoy it to the hard drive, although I'd prefer not to

[The Coder]

I will try what you suggested when I get to my linux box. Will let you know. Thanks.

[The Coder]

Thank you for your help. I mounted the Ximian iso in /mnt/dvd and you were right the go-ximian was inside. So I ran it and the installer came up sucessfully. But now I am getting another problem. When I click next with the installer, it says it can't identify my OS and won't go any further.

[Icarus]

I"m not sure at this point, I've never installed this so I have no idea how the installer works or how it determines the OS (it should know it's Linux, duh! :p)

I wonder if this is the same script?
http://go.ximian.com/
Could you compare them for me?

Also give the exact error message, for two reasons
1) It's easier to find when it bombed out in the script which helps with the why it bombed
2) Put part of the error in quotes and run it through http://google.com/linux

[ernieg]

This thread is interesting... From what I understand, is that Ximian Desktop is NOT supported on SuSE 9.1 Pro. I'm currently running 9.1 (Having moved from RH9.0) and I discovered a while ago that they didn't produce a version supported on the 9.1 release. (I believe there was a problem because of the 2.6 kernel)

In any case I took it as an opportunity to get more familliar with KDE.

(I really did like the Ximian desktop on RH 9.0 though)
I just looked at Novell's site and it looks like they basically replaced Ximian with the "Novell Linux Desktop" distribution.

It looks like they won't be providing a Ximian Desktop for other distributions any more... :confused:

[The Coder]

I wonder if this is the same script?
http://go.ximian.com/
Could you compare them for me?
Yes, from a quick glance they look to be the same.

Also give the exact error message, for two reasons
1) It's easier to find when it bombed out in the script which helps with the why it bombed
2) Put part of the error in quotes and run it through http://google.com/linux [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, now the installer is erroring out much earlier in the process than before. The error I am getting now is" Log of install will be in /tmp/installer.log.20041214212413
./go-ximian: line 312: 4489 Bus error GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=1 $INSTALLER -p -d $DIR >$LOGFILE 2>&1

The installer appears to have encountered an error.
Please check /tmp/installer.log.20041214212413 for details."

When I look at the logs they are empty. I give up. I think the other guy might be right, it might not be compatible with 9.1. This just sucks! I mean I am running KDE now and I want to try gone or a close variant but I can't. Gome says on their site that their new version is even harder to install than before?? Are these people for real? Who the hell is going to use their stuff. SUSE doesn't come with GNOME out of the box, so I wanted to try Ximian, and it looks like that isn't supported. I have looked all over the net for documents explaining how to install Gnome with no luck.
ANybody have any Ideas how I can experiment with Gnome on SUSE or am I just stuck with KDE?

[Icarus]

Well, that would make since...sortof

I didn't realize that their desktop drilled that deep where a kernel change will cause problems

anyone have any ideas on running Gnome2 with SUSE 9.1?

[ernieg]

SuSE 9.1 comes with Gnome2.4... You just can't use Ximian. I actually have both Gnome and KDE installed... I just decided for now to learn KDE. But I can always select Gnome from the login menu.
ernieg@manito:/etc> more SuSE-release
SuSE Linux 9.1 (i586)
VERSION = 9.1
ernieg@manito:/etc> rpm -q gnome-common
gnome-common-2.4.0-101
ernieg@manito:/etc>

Check your distro CD you can install it from there. You just don't get the "extras" provided from Ximian, but that doesn't mean that you can't get them on your own.

Hope this helps.