Which distros come with pppoe?

[blackbelt_jones]

Maybe this is more background than is necessary, but...

I'm building a new computer, and I''ve ordered DSL service. Of course, my local DSL provider, Verizon, hasn't heard of Linux, and so I've got to work out the connection myself, and I've been reading up on it. Tried downloading and installing the RPM for PPPOE (ppp over ethernet) , just for the hell of it, on my present RedHat 9-- and it just wouldn't install, citing conflicts...

Soooo... I haven't quite picked out the distro for my new box, and in order to prevent more conflicts, I would prefer that my new distro, whatever it is, already contains PPPOE before I install it. Is there anyplace where I can simply find a list of distros that contain pppoe? You'd think that most of them do, but I wasn't able to find it in the package list for Fedora on the Red Hat website. Maybe it's not a complete list?

ISO confused:confused: !!!!!

[ArgPirate]

er. im pretty sure most of them have that built in has part of the networking drivers. i know for a fact redhat and mandrake do because ive set them both up. i couldn't imagine that the others dont. ppoe is just a protocol type thingydy bob. if you have a choice though cable is really much easier to deal with, in my experince.

[bosox79]

I do'nt have DSL myself so I have never had to look into this issue myself, but that happened when you attempted to install ppoe on RH what conflicts did you run into? I would assume pretty much any desktop/newbie oriented distro would contain a pppoe package I found 2 mandrake packages on rpmfind http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=pppoe&submit=Search+...&system=&arch=

[JohnT]

You can download the source here:
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/open_source_rp-pppoe.php

[blackbelt_jones]

Here's the output when i triy to install the rpm binary package from Roaring Penguin:

[sonnet29@localhost pppoe]$ rpm -i pppoe-3.2-1.3.0.i386.rpm
warning: pppoe-3.2-1.3.0.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID de7b7eed
file /etc/ppp/pppoe-server-options from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/adsl-connect from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/adsl-setup from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/adsl-start from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/adsl-status from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/adsl-stop from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with
file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/pppoe from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/pppoe-relay from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/pppoe-server from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/sbin/pppoe-sniff from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man5/pppoe.conf.5.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/adsl-connect.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/adsl-setup.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/adsl-start.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/adsl-status.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/adsl-stop.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0
conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/pppoe-relay.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/pppoe-server.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/pppoe-sniff.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
file /usr/share/man/man8/pppoe.8.gz from install of pppoe-3.2-1.3.0 conflicts with file from package rp-pppoe-3.5-2
[sonnet29@localhost pppoe]$

It looks to me like what it's saying is that a version of PPPOE is already installed... but when I do a check for it with the command:

# rpm -qa | grep pppoe

nothing comes up.

Now I should say that I've always had some vague suspicion that my most recent Red Hat 9 install was a little "off" or something, cause the CD ROM drive I've been using is a little bit unreliable. The applications seem to crash a bit mroe than usual. I've left it as it is, because I was grateful that it works.

It certainly makes sense to me that current distros contain PPPOE... why the hell wouldn't they? What I read, exactly, is that most kernels over 2.4.x contain PPPOE. Naturally, I wanted to know for sure, but if ArgPirate knows from personal experience that it's in Red Hat, that's confirmation enough to get me started. I was going to start out with my new box by trying Centos 3, which is derived from Red Hat Enterprise source sode. Can anyone confirm that its in SuSE 9.1?

[InflatableHero]

Try: rpm -q rp-pppoe

It should be in there, you can use the Internet Configuration Wizard in the System Tools menu to set it up.

[arkaine23]

Yoper

[SoNiCfReAk]

Try Mepis it has really good PPPOE support and it is an amazing distro. It is on a LiveCD so you have nothing to lose for trying it.

Apt-get pwnz j00!

This what I do to make Mepis the ultimate distro on first boot:
Apt-get update
Apt-get install xchat nano mozilla-firefox nvidia-glx gaim dcgui-qt wine synaptic foobillard tvtime mozilla-thunderbird

Mepis has drivers for everything in the kernel, even my remote wonder was recognized on first boot and works in KDE. Package management is basically really simple with synaptic, you can get any OSS easily.

Mepis (http://mepis.org)

[JohnT]

OK, you've got it installed already. :D Now from a terminal type...."adsl-setup" and follow the instructions.

[CaptainPinko]

Originally posted by JohnT
OK, you've got it installed already. :D Now from a terminal type...."adsl-setup" and follow the instructions.

sounds familiar, try that. I think you may need to be root. also redhat should have some graphical tool to do it...

but as for your original question, I think it would be easier to list the distros that *don't* have pppoe out of the box. I know that when I tried gentoo I had to emerge it as it wasn't in the base system

[blackbelt_jones]

That didn't work, but like I said, I think this install is screwy. (Or maybe I forgot to be root? Maybe I'll try it again after I finish this post.)

Anyway, I know that it's in Red Hat, and in several other distros, and that's all that matters right now. At the moment I have neither a DSL connection nor an ethernet card-- but these and other goodies are on the way. When I asked the question, I was trying to decide whether I could get DSL running for Linux. The members of my LUG had flatly told me that I could. The lady from Verizon had flatly told me that I couldn't. I decided to throw down with the geeks.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by blackbelt_jones
That didn't work, but like I said, I think this install is screwy. (Or maybe I forgot to be root? Maybe I'll try it again after I finish this post.)Try using the full path to the executable. Mine is /usr/sbin/adsl-setup

The members of my LUG had flatly told me that I could. The lady from Verizon had flatly told me that I couldn't. I decided to throw down with the geeks. If it wasn't possible I wouldn't be posting this from Slackware.:D

[bosox79]

Problems like these make me more thankful I have Cable Broadband everyday:D

[Rinias]

adsl-setup is def. there in your /usr/sbin/adsl-setup like JohnT said (it's in your output).

Do like JohnT said and try it from root. It should work, otherwise I couldn't post this from Slackware either... :D

Another thing: is the modem you're getting/got connected by ethernet or usb? Cause if it's connected via USB, good luck!! I happen to have one connected via USB and it's a pain in the a**. But thanks to a team at sourceforge, the ZyXEL 630-11/13 works!!!

[mmills]

I thought every disto had a dsl built into the network somewhere. I have SBC and I have ran SUSE 8.0- 9.1, Mandrake 9.0- 1.0, Mepis, and RedHat 9.0 and it was all standard installation.

I guess if this all doesnt work for you, you could buy a cheap router and set up a lan....

[blackbelt_jones]

Originally posted by JohnT
If it wasn't possible I wouldn't be posting this from Slackware.:D

Of course, it's technically possible, but Verizon doesn't support it. Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that their DSL is handled by MSN, could it? :rolleyes: Of course not!

[korggis]

I had the same problem recently...
I have Slackware 10. Oki! The first step I did was to include the pppoe suport in the kernel...(2.6.7).
Then reboot with the new kernel.
The interface that conects you to the ISP should not have an IP addr but it should be UP...
ifconfig eth0 UP
then run: adsl-setup and ansewer the questions there .
When it asks your username say only your username and NOT user@something...
after that run adsl-start and it should be fine...

Now, as I heard, in RedHat 9 it works just fine without recompiling the kernel.
This is what I did ! I hope it may be of help to you !