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I hear a lot of people claiming things like that they use linux, or that they use Red Hat, or they use OpenBSD...
Ya know, I was just thinking. What if instead, people started saying, "I use KDE," or "I use BASH" or "I use WindowMaker"? In a real-user / non-hacker situation, wouldn't this make a lot more sense? I mean, if you're talking in terms of setting up firewall rules, you should still say, "I use Debian/HURD" or whatever (though in my imagination, one should be able to control such things in a way that makes them able to say "I use GNOME," but things just aren't that way.... yet)...
sharth
06-15-2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by nko
I hear a lot of people claiming things like that they use linux, or that they use Red Hat, or they use OpenBSD...
Ya know, I was just thinking. What if instead, people started saying, "I use KDE," or "I use BASH" or "I use WindowMaker"? In a real-user / non-hacker situation, wouldn't this make a lot more sense? I mean, if you're talking in terms of setting up firewall rules, you should still say, "I use Debian/HURD" or whatever (though in my imagination, one should be able to control such things in a way that makes them able to say "I use GNOME," but things just aren't that way.... yet)... For setting up a firewall you would actually say I use iptables or ipchains or ipfwdm or ipf or pf or norton or a host of other things.
and gnome is putting out a tool known as gnome-system-tools which attempts to standardize this across distros.
El_Cu_Guy
06-16-2004, 03:25 AM
Not really as there are differences that still exist between unices. Some utilities may differ or may not be available or even work equally between them.
When between proclaim that they use one unice over another (ie Linux, Solaris or a particular BSD), most intelligent posts usually point out as to why.
All very true. I just think this would be ideal, if we actually *could* refer to things this way. Less guesswork. Less learning curve. More abstraction of simple intricacies.
XiaoKJ
06-16-2004, 11:20 AM
There always be one thing that links us all -- we are on the GPL and we are open-source!
I think that identity is enough
YEAH!
Unless we're BSD. Or if we're talking about Mozilla, Apache, X..... but if we're using the GNU toolchain or like 70% of free software out there, GPL!
Loki3
06-16-2004, 12:29 PM
How about we just say that we are using "application" on "*nix"?
That pretty much covers it, eh?