KDE Not working/ Fluxbox Flakey

[IsaacKuo]

Originally posted by pezplaya
That is not true.

In KDE 3.2.0 and up you can make the bar transparent. Right click on the bar >configure panel > click the apperance tab> and click "Enable Transparency".

screenshot (http://www.falsworld.com/pez/screen.png)

Okay, here's a silly newbie question--I'm running Knoppix installed Debian. Is there a way for me to upgrade to KDE 3.2.0? According to KDE's Control Center, I'm running KDE 3.1.5.

I'm such a newbie that I've only used apt-get a few times so far, and only installed a couple things from source.

Thanks for any help/suggestions!

[DSwain]

you should be able to, i'm not sure exactly how you'd go about doing it, but i'm sure its possible. Not sure if you can with Apt though, you may want to look at the kde site for some info on installation

[knute]

Originally posted by IsaacKuo
Okay, here's a silly newbie question--I'm running Knoppix installed Debian. Is there a way for me to upgrade to KDE 3.2.0? According to KDE's Control Center, I'm running KDE 3.1.5.

I'm such a newbie that I've only used apt-get a few times so far, and only installed a couple things from source.

Thanks for any help/suggestions!

Ok, while connected to the net, in a term window as root issue the following command:
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Will update your entire system.
If you don't want core system files updated use this one:
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

Either one should update your kde.

btw, are you using stable or what in your sources.list?
If you are using stable, it may not upgrade kde to 3.1.2. Not sure though. This is just a heads up incase it isn't upgraded.

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[IsaacKuo]

I THINK I'm running unstable, but I'm not positive. Either way, those apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get upgrade commands seemed to update pretty much everything...

...but KDE Control Center still says 3.1.5 and I still don't get to have a transparent taskbar. Oh well, I guess I must learn patience...

Thanks!

[knute]

hehehe... After everything got upgraded, did you log out?

[IsaacKuo]

Yes, and rebooted.

[IsaacKuo]

Oh--by "pretty much everything", I don't mean KDE specifically. I wouldn't even know what the KDE modules would be called anyway. I just meant it updated a gazillion things, including many important seeming things.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by IsaacKuo
Oh--by "pretty much everything", I don't mean KDE specifically. I wouldn't even know what the KDE modules would be called anyway. I just meant it updated a gazillion things, including many important seeming things.

Well then just issue the command locate gazillions orlocate many_important_seeming_thingsthat should give you an idea what has been upgraded. :D

Seriously though, there are logfiles with everyone of these distros that have some type of auto-upgrade feature. Go to http://kde.org and look for documentation on your distro. It's there. There are instructions onsite for doing a semi-manual install. There's even a tool that some use with much success..."Konstruct" to download and build KDE.

[IsaacKuo]

I'm not sure, but fumbling around Debian's web site, I THINK even unstable is only KDE 3.1.2.

Regardless, I think I'll try out Konstruct. I gather it won't overwrite anything in the current KDE setup by default--I'll run it with a test user. Someday, when Debian unstable catches up, I'll use apt-get to overwrite the main KDE setup.

Thanks for all the help!

[knute]

Originally posted by IsaacKuo
I'm not sure, but fumbling around Debian's web site, I THINK even unstable is only KDE 3.1.2.

Regardless, I think I'll try out Konstruct. I gather it won't overwrite anything in the current KDE setup by default--I'll run it with a test user. Someday, when Debian unstable catches up, I'll use apt-get to overwrite the main KDE setup.

Thanks for all the help!
Nope. As of last night, it was 3.2.1 for KDE.

I upgraded my system, last night. It finished up -- mostly -- this morning, and kde was 3.2.1.

[IsaacKuo]

I guess I'm not running unstable, then. I'm not sure how to go about doing something about that.

[knute]

Originally posted by IsaacKuo
I guess I'm not running unstable, then. I'm not sure how to go about doing something about that.

Check your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
If you copy the line that you have already in there, and replace stable or testing with unstable, then do the update and upgrade, it will do it for you.

[squeegy]

i hate to contribute to the off-topic nature of this post. but i thought i'd mention that Knoppix runs a mixture of testing/stable packages. and if i recall correctly there are some type of special instructions for upgrading KDE on www.knoppix.net maybe under docs maybe on the forums.

[IsaacKuo]

Okay, I've completely fubar'd KDE and am now struggling with a flakey fluxbox...

I eventually figured out where to find out what I was running and to change it--the file /etc/apt/apt.conf

I changed the "default release" from "testing" to "unstable". I then attempted to upgrade KDE, and it did a lot of stuff...but ultimately failed. Note that it was trying to install KDE 3.2.2, AFAICT, rather than KDE 3.2.1.

I tried changing back to "testing", but it can't upgrade KDE at all, now. I don't have any cut-and-paste working, and I can't resize Mozilla to manually type in the exact error message...hmm...(I've lost Mozilla entirely twice while trying to resize the window...).

Well, unless there's some way to fix KDE, even an older version, it looks like I'm going to have to wipe this hard drive clean and start everything over fresh.

I guess I shouldn't have risked trying to install anything under Debian "unstable". It really killed my system!

[cblue]

I'm running Debian Unstable with KDE 3.2.2.-1 with no problems whatsoever. To get all the packages of KDE upgraded correctly, do this:

1. apt-get install kdelibs kdebase kdeutils kdepim kdegames kdm kdemultimedia kdeartwork kdeadmin kdegraphics

2. apt-get upgrade

3. apt-get install the remaining updated apps.

4. Reboot

After installation, you may notice the kmenu looking not quite right, if so, go into menu editor and delete the debian folder put there if you see it. Reboot. Then run the menu updating option in your kmenu > settings and do a scan and choose all the apps you want to have in your menu.

This worked for me when I first upgraded to the latest KDE.

You have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all unstable urls to get the latest KDE version.

[Hayl]

I split these out of the Screenshots thread.

These are TOTALLY off-topic and in addition are asking for support on a totally new problem.

Per our posting guidelines, DO NOT hijack threads by tacking new questions onto the ends of existing threads. If you have a qustion, please make a new thread.

Not only is it less confusing but your question will get answerd far more quickly.

Thank you.

[IsaacKuo]

I'm sorry.

I thought it would just be a simple single post answer, just like the other question/reply about that screenshot.

Again, I'm sorry.