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MMYoung
04-03-2004, 07:36 AM
That's a quote from a news article I just read about the "settlement" of the lawsuit that SUN had against Microsoft. Then Rob Enderle, principal analyst at Enderle Group in San Jose, California, went on to say "They are seeing each other as less of a threat and, together, facing a common threat." (Meaning Linux)

The article also stated, "Both companies face stiff competition from upstart Linux in the market for server software used on networked computers because Linux can be copied and modified freely."

The whole section of the article concerning Linux really didn't make a lot of sense to me, seeing as SUN now has their own Linux desktop OS out, I guess now they see themselves as a threat :confused:.

"Upstart?" I guess that's what they call you when you're a 10 year overnight success story ;).

Here is a LINK (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=580&e=2&u=/nm/20040403/bs_nm/tech_sun_dc) to the article if anyone wants a laugh.

Later,
MMYoung

stumbles
04-03-2004, 08:38 AM
Lol, yeah that Enderle is a hoot alright. A one man company built on flogging Microsoft market speak. I've had the misfortune to read his "articles" before. After a few of those I no long bother as they all say pretty much the same thing.

EnigmaOne
04-03-2004, 12:43 PM
Uh.....Rob's still alive?

Enlighted One
04-03-2004, 01:58 PM
Very entertaining. Especially the part about "upstart linux". Sun's new JDS distro is based on what?......yes the enemy

JohnT
04-03-2004, 02:35 PM
That article is nothing compared to this news
http://www.eweek.com/

Last night Sun's Mcnealy and MS Blamer were on Fox News taliking about a done deal.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1560692,00.asp
:D

EnigmaOne
04-03-2004, 02:58 PM
Yeah, and it looks like McNealy already had a dose of M$'s .NET philosophy:
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-1998/jw-07-idgns-school.html
"McNealy also predicted that five years from now, most people will be amazed they ever owned a PC. The need for full-fledged PCs with lots of local storage will continue to decrease as phone companies and other service providers begin hosting data for users in their servers, according to McNealy. Already, there are companies that provide this service, he said. "

Like I'd trust somebody else with my confidential data, not to mention risking their locking my data into their service.

Get real!

MMYoung
04-03-2004, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by EnigmaOne
Like I'd trust somebody else with my confidential data, not to mention risking their locking my data into their service.

Get real!
Why, whatever do you mean? Surely you don't think that someone might compromise your data? Surely there would be some form of Governmental controls and *safeguards*, not to mention security via the NSA (http://www.nsa.gov/selinux).

Just wondering,
MMYoung

EnigmaOne
04-03-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by MMYoung
Why, whatever do you mean? Surely you don't think that someone might compromise your data?

::: snicker :::

Yeah, and I have "Precious Moments eyes" too. ;)

stumbles
04-03-2004, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by EnigmaOne
Yeah, and it looks like McNealy already had a dose of M$'s .NET philosophy:
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-1998/jw-07-idgns-school.html
"McNealy also predicted that five years from now, most people will be amazed they ever owned a PC. The need for full-fledged PCs with lots of local storage will continue to decrease as phone companies and other service providers begin hosting data for users in their servers, according to McNealy. Already, there are companies that provide this service, he said. "

Like I'd trust somebody else with my confidential data, not to mention risking their locking my data into their service.

Get real!

Yeah, sure I trust no one with my data but me.

IIRC wasn't it just only 2 or 3 years ago with the big push for this sort of thing? Don't remember the specifics but I think Apple and a couple of others tried that.

EnigmaOne
04-03-2004, 04:36 PM
Yeah, that was the Application Service Provider push, right before the '.com' fallout.

Funny, m$ was one of the biggest peddlers of snake oil (still are, IMHO) on that one.

Enlighted One
04-03-2004, 07:28 PM
McNealy dances a fine line by messing around with Microsoft. Declare your loyalties and your products will sell better.

psi42
04-03-2004, 07:39 PM
Whose side is McNealy on?

EnigmaOne
04-03-2004, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by psi42
Whose side is McNealy on?

Certainly a question that he should field from the boardroom, hmmmmm?
Sounds like he couldn't finish the race.

Enlighted One
04-03-2004, 07:52 PM
Reminds of another CEO named McBride......Supposdly once a friend but now a vicious enemy

EnigmaOne
04-03-2004, 08:53 PM
Having worked at Ikon, Inc., I can tell you that Darl (kneepads) McBride has never been a friend to anyone.