making aterm or terminal

[crow2icedearth2]

i want to make a terminal a root terminal with no menus on it all . i have am using aterm and i cant get KDE menus off the the top of it and i need it docked as root window non movemable .is there any KDE program that will hid the KDE menu bar on aterm ? and doc it

i have had a complety transparent root aterm in blackbox with appconfig . any ideas of how to do it in KDE ? the reason i want it as a root window is it will fit my theme i have been doing so far.

thanks any info on it will help

[JohnT]

Have you tried right-click on the screen?

[JesterDev]

I know how to do this with eterm but not aterm.

Eterm -O -x --buttonbar no --scrollbar no

There is another thread(s) floating around about attempts at doing this with aterm, but to my knowledge I don't think anyone has done it with KDE.

[crow2icedearth2]

? that won't make your terminal transparent never heard of such a thing "right click on it "

I want totally transparent terminal in KDE. right clicking on the terminal doesnt do that.

i have had totally transparent in blackbox with appconfig .

i want to hide the kde toolbar and make it part of the root window.

thanks :)

[crow2icedearth2]

its time i or sometone else starts a project for it......he he

i like having root tails and root terminals .
i have aterm transparent with bars and scrollbar off but it still has kde toolbar and i want it locked on the root terminal .

[crow2icedearth2]

anyone know ?

[knute]

So let me get this straight here.

Ok, you have a transparent aterm that you want on your root window.

Ok. That should be able to be specified in kde somewhere, but that's not what confuses me.

What do you mean by the kde toolbar? Are you talking about the bar on the bottom, that has the K on it, and the other icons, tasklist, clock, etc....?

You can always set the autohide to get rid of that when you don't need it.

Also, you might want to check out superkaramba to keep track of some of that information, rather than using an aterm.

Either that or specify the tail or roottail in the shortcut that starts the aterm. The form is very simple.

for an aterm running tail on /var/log message in the upper left hand corner of the screen that is 80 chars long and 5 lines high, would be:
aterm -g +5+5+80x5 -bw 0 -tr -tint white -fg white -bg black -sh 100 -e tail /var/log/messages

[crow2icedearth2]

yeah im running superkaramba and i love it i cant get the weather theme to work i get an import error . i have the tuxbar working fine
maybe u can help me get the weather theme working
thanks man

[knute]

I wouldn't know where to begin. I haven't used kde for more than maybe 3 hours in the 5.5 years that I've been using linux.
And about an hour of that was helping my 5 year old son (st the time) figure out how to set up his backgrounds -- then he discovered the gimp, and I was out. LOL

Though in perusing their site there has been issues with weather apps for alot of those types of sites. When the site changes format or location of anything, the app breaks. :(

[crow2icedearth2]

What do you mean by the kde toolbar? Are you talking about the bar on the bottom, that has the K on it, and the other icons, tasklist, clock, etc....?

NO ... im talking about when u launch aterm it it opens in a new window i basicall want that window 100% transparent so its looks like im typing on the root window graphic ... no window at all .. i have done it with blackbox,appconfig and aterm . appconfig turns off the window so aterm is right in your root window with no window
thats what i want not KDE settings but it aterm uses kde theme for the window

[crow2icedearth2]

that aterm command u gave me doesnt work it just dies. with the -e tail /var/log/messages

[knute]

Oh. So you don't want window decorations.

This is just a guess, but wouldn't things of that nature be in your KDE control center, under maybe look and feel?

I use sawfish, and there's a matched windows option to do the window decorations thing (among others).

Maybe someone here uses KDE more than they do Gnome, :eek: and could answer your question. :D

[knute]

Originally posted by crow2icedearth2
that aterm command u gave me doesnt work it just dies. with the -e tail /var/log/messages

So you don't get anything at all?

Ok then add the -F option after tail.

I was just giving you an example. What the -F will do is make tail monitor the file, and print anything new to the screen.

HTH

[crow2icedearth2]

in the future i wont have problems like this ill write my own program. Im learning c/c++/
then i want to learn QT and GTK widgets or programming for them :)

[cybertron]

Here's a way to get a window in KDE to have no decorations (my command for starting aterm): kstart -type Override aterm -tr -trsb -sh 25 -sr -st -sl 1024 -fg Green -bg Black -sk -fn 9x15 -g 80x30 -e bash

I think there's a couple of different ways to do it, but AFAIK they all involve kstart in some way. This has been working great for me, except that if I leave an aterm open when I shut down, when KDE starts back up it just brings up a new aterm with all the decorations intact. On the plus side, aterm is so fast that it takes no time at all to close it and open a new one :)

[crow2icedearth2]

thanks it worked !!! you know what i was talking about thats what i have been trying to do . :)

[crow2icedearth2]

u know of a program to tell me my corrds ? X , Y so i can place the aterm ?

[cybertron]

I don't know about that, but if you hold down alt and click on the aterm you will be able to move it. Same thing for resizing but you have to right click.

[crow2icedearth2]

thanks man.. one last question is there a way to turn off in aterm so i cant highlight the aterm. if i put my mouse on the aterm and drag my mouse it hightlights the aterm in a ugly green. i dont want that.....thanks