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Trogdor
02-15-2004, 05:39 PM
Note: I'm not trying to start a rant or holy war. It is just that virtually no one knows what enlightenment is!

I've been a dedicated fluxbox user for quite a while. Before that, it was ROX-Session, IceWM, WM, Gnome, XFCE, KDE, et al. I decided to try enlightenment yesterday, and I fell in love (on valentine's day . . . cool, huh?). Enlightenment is a really good balance between eye-candy and being light on ram. Lots of things are animated, and it is just . . . cool! I did a test on RAM, just to see which of enlightenment, fluxbox, and KDE were the lightest on ram. It, by no means, is a scientific study, just an ignoramus's procedure of closing all programs, opening an xterm and less /proc/meminfo. Here are the results:

Memory Free (not used):
KDE: 65349 kB
Fluxbox: 117592 kB
Enlightenment: 143440 kB (!!!!!)

Give 'e' a try. It is a really fast emerge, and you won't be dissapointed!

</ramblings from a guy who changes window managers as fast as lovechild changes distros>

Darkbolt
02-15-2004, 05:59 PM
yeah, its definetly a great WM, Im using openbox3 atm, but I love E...try the 23oz glass theme, its kick-*** ;)

JamminJoeyB
02-19-2004, 12:23 PM
I like enlightenment. It's used as the default wm in Evil Entity. That is where I first used it. I just wish that slack wouldn't have dropped it from it's distro.

I think the main reason for dropping it was to make space for other things as E isn't the most popular wm.

WayStar
02-19-2004, 12:36 PM
I keep wanting to try the latest E, but haven't yet got it installed properly on my MAndrake 9.2 box.

That's okay, I'e been mostly using Blackbox lately.

-Waylena

Icarus
02-19-2004, 12:48 PM
This looks familuar...where have I seen this before?

Oh, I remember now! (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=137044&highlight=enlightenment+fluxbox)
copied word for word too..at least you're consistant :D

PS - read this sarcasticly, E is a great WM and I know that it made great leaps from release 16 (although it took about 4 years)

And how can you NOT post a link!? :p
http://enlightenment.org/pages/main.html

AndrewLubinus89
02-19-2004, 11:27 PM
I've used E for a bit. It is actually quite a nice wm. It has lots of eyecandy features and has a nice feel to it. I left for ion/flux/gnome (depending on how minimalistic I feel) but it still was pretty nice using it when I did.

voidinit
02-20-2004, 02:33 AM
I've used E for as long as I've used linux. I absolutely love it. It was the first WM I found that lets me "Pan" desktops by just "pushing" the edge of the screen with the pointer.

I think the reason slackware dropped E from thier distro is because E development has become a bit unstable. The last I read, this was a while ago mind you, E couldn't decide on which direction they wanted to take I guess a few core developers wanted to completely redo the codebase or something. Also it requires a depreciated version of a particular lib...I think it's fnlib or libttf, but I'm not sure. In any event E is incompatable with the newest version of said library. If E still has development problems, and this older lib is depreciated, then E will have serious problems.

JamminJoeyB
02-20-2004, 10:59 AM
voidinit, that makes sense. I checked out the E site yesterday. It looked just about the same as it did the last time I looked 7 months ago. They have a creat concept for a wm there, but it looks like the development is so slow at this point it's probably going to wind up falling apart.

I started using gnome 2.4 as my de/wm when I installed Slack9.1 But I really like a more minimal approach to a wm/de. Maybe I'll play around with some of the others and see if one has a similar feel to E. I have a tendancy to get lazy and stay with what is working and letting me get work done.

Trogdor
02-20-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by mahdi
This looks familuar...where have I seen this before?

Oh, I remember now! (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=137044&highlight=enlightenment+fluxbox)
copied word for word too..at least you're consistant :D


Good job, son. Now find the only other one exactly like it.

Icarus
02-20-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Trogdor
Good job, son. Now find the only other one exactly like it. I knew I saw another one! But I couldn't find it :p

AndrewLubinus89
02-20-2004, 11:28 PM
soon all the linux sites will become all the same one with all the same posts and members the way things are going with these multi site posts...

voidinit
02-21-2004, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by JamminJoeyB
voidinit, that makes sense. I checked out the E site yesterday. It looked just about the same as it did the last time I looked 7 months ago. They have a creat concept for a wm there, but it looks like the development is so slow at this point it's probably going to wind up falling apart.

I started using gnome 2.4 as my de/wm when I installed Slack9.1 But I really like a more minimal approach to a wm/de. Maybe I'll play around with some of the others and see if one has a similar feel to E. I have a tendancy to get lazy and stay with what is working and letting me get work done.

Yeah, they aren't in the greatest of shape in the development department. When I first learned about this I took an alarmist approach and started searching for a WM that would be around for a while. I know KDE and GNOME, and I know I don't really like them. I don't like menubars or desktop icons or any of that crap. I looked into IceWM, Fluxbox and BlackBox. I didn't really like them mostly because I don't want to learn them. I hope E can get their act together.