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masitti
01-26-2004, 02:28 PM
Ok, just got an Abit NF7 motherboard and a Barton 2500+ CPU upgrade. Also got a new 80GB HD. So, got Windows XP reinstalled... downloaded MDK 9.2 two days (first two CD's), install went perfect. Mandrake cant' seem to get connected with my vDSL. In Windows, I just plug in the ethernet cable, tell Windows that I am connected to a hub and to look for an internet connection there.. and bam it works. I know I am missing something in Mandrake - so what is it? :( This computer goes up to a hub, and the hub goes up to the vDSL modem. Any insights greatly appreciated. BTW, I've never had a problem with my old setup (GIGABYTE KT333 mobo and XP 1600+) with both MDK 9.0 or SuSE 8.2 - they detected the LAN connection and configured it all for me, so I am not sure what the deal is here. Oh yea, MDK finds the nForce 2 network controller too, so it definitely see's it there. Thanks!
TotalNewb
01-27-2004, 03:05 AM
Have u tried DrakConnect (its somekind of wizard)?
Its at Mandrake Control Center --> Network And Internet --> DrakConnect.
havent tried that my self cos Mandrake did fid
my internet connection (adsl) automatic.
-TotalNewb
canon006
01-27-2004, 03:55 AM
You need to get the Nforce Unified Driver from Nvidia's website, I had exactly the same problem with Mandy 9.2 and an Abit NF7-S. It identifies all the Nforce stuff but doesn't have a specific driver for it, if you get the real Nforce driver, you'll get your Lan working no problem. After you get that, do what TotalNewb said, use DrakConnect.
masitti
01-27-2004, 09:42 AM
I did try DrakConnect before, and no luck.
Thanks for the tip, I will download the driver and install it this afternoon. :)
masitti
01-27-2004, 06:07 PM
Still no luck, I have never had such a pain trying to get onto the net. What's goin on here? modules.conf shows that it's loading alias eth0 nvnet , I installed the MDK 9.1 RPM, went great... wth?
dalek
01-28-2004, 06:15 AM
Type in ifconfig and see if it is running. It should look like this.
bash-2.05b# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:53:81:D4:D1
inet addr:192.168.0.5 Bcast:192.168.0.25 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:975637 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2438642 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:106100389 (101.1 Mb) TX bytes:2756321910 (2628.6 Mb)
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xc000
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:4C:72:4B
inet addr:207.170.82.202 Bcast:207.0.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
Interrupt:11
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:21920 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:21920 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:19271414 (18.3 Mb) TX bytes:19271414 (18.3 Mb)
ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:209.205.136.82 P-t-P:208.132.75.135 Mask:255.255.255.255
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1524 Metric:1
RX packets:4765 errors:483 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5273 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
RX bytes:3574446 (3.4 Mb) TX bytes:987796 (964.6 Kb)
bash-2.05b#
I have two cards on mine. If it is not running do this.
lsmod
Should list this:
bash-2.05b# lsmod
Module Size Used by
nvidia 1700588 -
nvnet 30848 -
bash-2.05b#
If it does then do this
modprobe nvnet
If it is loaded then try this
/etc/init.d/<whatever the ethport is called> status
If it says stopped then type in the same again but with start instead of status. You can go to the /etc/init.d directory and find what the ethernet is called exactly. Just fill the right name.
That ethernet will work. It's just that Nvidia makes it a pain in the but. I bought a card for my LAN. Then got the on board thing to work later. Somebody helped me in Gentoo forum. I wasn't even going to try to use it at first.
Basically, see if it sees it yet, then if not see if the modules is loaded, then try to start the stupid thing after all that. You will need to add the module so that it loads on reboot and add the net to come up when it boots.
I would get the card recognized and running then use Mandrake Control Center thing to set up the rest. It is more point and click.
If Nvidia would release the source for the driver, it could be included in the kernel. This is not Linuxes fault, it is Nvidia's fault. My last nforce mobo too.
Disregard the smileys in the ifconfig list. It just sees it as the code for the grin.
Later
:D :D :D :D
masitti
01-28-2004, 06:03 PM
Dalek, I ran ifconfig, and it only comes up with lo.
I ran lsmod, and it didn't show anything related to the networking card.
Of course modprobe nvnet said 'module not found'.
I installed the MDK 9.1 RPM from Nvidia. I also tried the tar.gz, but it wouldn't compile.
I am at a complete loss here, this is the most difficult thing I've ever seen concerning a NIC card.
dalek
01-28-2004, 06:23 PM
Nvidia makes it hard by not releasing the code. It is a pain in the but.
You may want to install the kernel sources for Mandrake. Go to a terminal and type in
uname -r
and get the exact version that you are running and then go install the exact version of the kernel. Make SURE it is the exact version.
It won't compile if the sources are not there and 9.1 does not install them. You may want to go to start thingy then Confiuration then Install Software and do a search for kernel and it may be there. They were included on the CD, you just have to install them. The kernel is precompiled, they just throw a copy on there for you. :D
If you get the kernel sources you should then be able to get the tar file to compile then. It needs to see the version and what else is in the kernel before it messes up something else.
I wish Nvidia would make things easier. Surely the code for a NIC can't that big of a secret. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Later
:D :D :D :D
canon006
01-28-2004, 06:24 PM
If I remember correctly, the kernel source is not included with Mandrake 9.2, but you can get the source for said kernel if you do some googling. Once you get the kernel sources and put them in the right place, the tar.gz Nvidia driver should be able to compile a module for the Mandrake 9.2 kernel. That might be your problem, I'm not sure if the Nvidia module for 9.1 would work with the different kernel in 9.2.
masitti
01-28-2004, 06:27 PM
Wait, but shouldn't I be able to compile any tar.gz? I am not following you here... or do I need to install the kernal sources to compile? Please explain.
dalek
01-28-2004, 06:41 PM
You need the kernel sources to compile the driver. Install them first. That 9.1 RPM may not work. If you are using 9.2, you will likely have to download the kernel sources from Mandrake's site. They did not come on my CDs at least. I couldn't even install my video drivers because of that. Oooo I was pi$$ed. :mad:
Get the kernel first then go to Nvidia's site and get the latest tar file or a RPM that will work with 9.2, not 9.1.
That should get you coing then. There is a read me that will give the exact instructions on the driver. Should be something like ./configure then make then make install or something close to that. Go by what the read me says just in case they changed something.
I still wish Nvidia would let them put this in the kernel. <sighs>
The reason you have to have the kernel is because the ./configure part looks for the include file in the kernel, which is /usr/src/linux/include, since you don't have the source installed there is no files there for it to see and it fails. Those files tells what the kernel has installed and whether it is a mod or what. Basically it just needs them and won't work without them.
Later
:D :D :D
masitti
01-28-2004, 06:44 PM
Well, I'd like to thank you guys SOO much for helping me!
I installed the kernel source RPM for 9.2 - ran the nfoce.tar.gz, did a make and make install... went perfect. Went to the Mandrake Control Center, and it detected the card and set it up, just like my old systems. Awesome, thanks again. :D
dalek
01-28-2004, 11:37 PM
I know it is a pain in the butt, but did you learn a little something about Linux and how it works? That is what I like about this type of stuff, learning.
If Nvidia would let that code out, Mandrake would have taken care of that for you during the install. That would have been nice huh.
I am very glad you got it going, and you are very welcome. Now throw away the windoze CD. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Later
:D :D :D :D
masitti
01-28-2004, 11:39 PM
Yea, thanks a lot, I definitely appreciate it.
Windows is still on... until I can get BF1942 and NFS Underground working in Linux and get my other small problems fixed (evolution and mysql).
dalek
01-29-2004, 12:10 AM
What is BF1942? Is NFS like Network File System? I know Linux has that one. I been trying to set that up myself, that's why I bought the NICS. I don't have broadband. <wiping tears from eyes>
I get it. Battle Field 1942. I think they have that for Linux. Look at this link and see if this helps.
http://www.blackbagops.com/bf1942/bfsm/howto-linux.shtml
Still working on NFS on my rig. Can't get everything working on the other rig at the moment. It slow, me impatient.
Later
:D :D :D
That NFS may need a new thread.
masitti
01-29-2004, 12:12 AM
NFS = Need For Speed. Driving/racing game. ;)
dalek
01-29-2004, 12:23 AM
That looks like a Nvidia video card you have, got those drivers installed yet?
If not, check this out:
http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108859&
It is a old one, don't laugh OK.
One more hint, download nano and install it. It is a command line editor and is very easy to use. It comes with Gentoo, which I use now.
There is a easier way to install it if you want me to share. :D
Later
:D :D :D
masitti
01-29-2004, 01:16 AM
Thanks, I've delt with installing NVIDIA video drivers before.. but I'll use your guide to install these ones once I get my other problems fixed. :)