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Prod_Deity
11-16-2003, 02:18 AM
I have just tried to upgrade from KDE 3.1.1 to 3.1.4 with my new SuSE 8.1 distro :D (I know it's old, but it was the only other distro available to buy where I live other than RH :cool: )

Anywho... I thought it might be a good idea to log out of KDE to do the upgrade, so I logged out & switched to Gnome to do the install...

On a post that I found searching on here, said to save all RPMs to one folder, then do this command as root in a shell...

"rpm -Uvh --nodeps --replacepkgs *.rpm"

after I did that I exited Gnome & went to KDE, then got the error

"ERROR: KDE seems to already be running on this display"

Can anyone help me? I find Gnome rather horrid (Sorry if that stars a flame/GUI war :rolleyes: .)

I just would like KDE back. :(

Thanks!!

bosox79
11-16-2003, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by Prod_Deity
I have just tried to upgrade from KDE 3.1.1 to 3.1.4 with my new SuSE 8.1 distro :D (I know it's old, but it was the only other distro available to buy where I live other than RH :cool: )

Anywho... I thought it might be a good idea to log out of KDE to do the upgrade, so I logged out & switched to Gnome to do the install...

On a post that I found searching on here, said to save all RPMs to one folder, then do this command as root in a shell...

"rpm -Uvh --nodeps --replacepkgs *.rpm"

after I did that I exited Gnome & went to KDE, then got the error

"ERROR: KDE seems to already be running on this display"

Can anyone help me? I find Gnome rather horrid (Sorry if that stars a flame/GUI war :rolleyes: .)

I just would like KDE back. :(

Thanks!!

what is your default run level set to? check the /etc/inittab file for this you may need to halt your system by running init 0 at the console to make sure you call all processes. and then when you reboot hopefully you will be able to boot into kde

Prod_Deity
11-16-2003, 03:31 AM
what is your default run level set to?

The default is 5

check the /etc/inittab file for this you may need to halt your system by running init 0 at the console to make sure you call all processes. and then when you reboot hopefully you will be able to boot into kde

Could you possibly give me some pointers on how to change it?

I've done init 0 @ console, then after it rebooted, it still gave me the same error.. did I miss something?


I think I should have included this when I posted. I'll add what it did.....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Password:
linux:~ # cd /home/foo/Documents/KDE/
linux:/home/foo/Documents/KDE # rpm -Uvh --nodeps --replacepkgs *.rpm
kappdock ##################################################
karamba ##################################################
kdebase3-extra ##################################################
kdebase3-kdm ##################################################
kdebase3-nsplugin ##################################################
kdebase3 ##################################################
kdebindings3-java ##################################################
kdemultimedia3-sound ##################################################
kdenetwork3-chat ##################################################
qt3 ##################################################
linux:/home/foo/Documents/KDE #
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Think I did anything wrong?

Prod_Deity
11-16-2003, 06:11 PM
I just thought of something.......

How would I kill KDE?

I know I can kill processes, but how would I kill a window manager?

bosox79
11-16-2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Prod_Deity
I just thought of something.......

How would I kill KDE?

I know I can kill processes, but how would I kill a window manager?
can you still boot into gnome? if do we may be able to fix your problem with kde via yast. if not then try the next step.

try issuing a killall command from a root# prompt. ( do you get dropped to a prompt after you get the error?:D

Prod_Deity
11-17-2003, 01:58 AM
I am in Gnome right now checking my post every now and again, but I would have tried to kill all, but I have yet to gain alot of command line knowlage. I am still new to the game & have yet to learn alot on the command line but I am working on it. :D

tmcG
11-17-2003, 02:24 AM
Seeing you can still boot into Gnome, at a console, as root, type init 3 to change the run-level to full multi user mode and you will be given a text only login screen where you can login as yourself and use the su command to change to root. This will stop the X server and should allow you to fix the problem.

Alternatively, I believe you can start linux at a particular run level by typing at the boot: prompt linux (or whatever your boot loader label for linux is) followed by the run level your wish to use:

eg to start at full multiuser mode, you would tupe linux 3

Here is a list of run levels and what they do for information:

0 - halt
1 - Single user mode
2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you don't have networking)
3 - Full multiuser mode
4 - unused
5 - X11
6 - Reboot

I hope this helps!:)

bosox79
11-17-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by tmcG
Seeing you can still boot into Gnome, at a console, as root, type init 3 to change the run-level to full multi user mode and you will be given a text only login screen where you can login as yourself and use the su command to change to root. This will stop the X server and should allow you to fix the problem.

Alternatively, I believe you can start linux at a particular run level by typing at the boot: prompt linux (or whatever your boot loader label for linux is) followed by the run level your wish to use:

eg to start at full multiuser mode, you would tupe linux 3

Here is a list of run levels and what they do for information:

0 - halt
1 - Single user mode
2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you don't have networking)
3 - Full multiuser mode
4 - unused
5 - X11
6 - Reboot

I hope this helps!:)

in addition to what tmcG said I would take a look at your /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager directory and try setting kde as the default window manager. take a look at mdwatts first post in this thread http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111138&highlight=set+default+window+manager+suse
Look into /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager
for an example of what the file looks like. you should be able to edit this file if you open up a text editor from a root# within gnome. you would type the name of the text editor for example gedit then press enter then ounce it opens you can open the file I was referring to above.:D
do'nt edit the file just tell use what your default window manager is set to my guess is that it will be gnome

Prod_Deity
11-17-2003, 05:26 AM
I have done what was siad and I got this (see attachment)

I decided to reinstall & not to installl KDE, until I had the proper files, hence me as root (I do not have anz idea where I can add users under Gnome) and now I have KDE running INSIDE of Gnome..... brb, gonna try something out....
************************************************** **********************
Found out how to add a user, but still no KDE :confused:

Prod_Deity
11-17-2003, 09:00 PM
I switched from the graphical greeting with SuSE to the basic one & chose KDE from the session's menu :rolleyes:

Now.... to find a post about getting the KDE graphical logon screen :cool:

A big thanks to all those who have helped!!

:D

With me not having "BIG problems", I've been slowly talking some of my friends into switching too, with this step overcomed... I'm sure they'll follow suit any time now

Thanks alot. again. :)

bosox79
11-17-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Prod_Deity
I switched from the graphical greeting with SuSE to the basic one & chose KDE from the session's menu :rolleyes:

Now.... to find a post about getting the KDE graphical logon screen :cool:

A big thanks to all those who have helped!!

:D

With me not having "BIG problems", I've been slowly talking some of my friends into switching too, with this step overcomed... I'm sure they'll follow suit any time now

Thanks alot. again. :)

your welcome, and as far as getting the graphical login back is there a yast tool that will help you do this? because you are booting with KDE just not the SUSE default gui kdm menu correct? you will have to forgive me I have never used suse myself you might also check and see what the kde login manager says as will it is in the control center under system administration look under the appearance section for a menu called gui style and see if there is an option that says suse or something like that. my default gui style for fedora is bluecurve.