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bazoukas
11-05-2003, 02:15 PM
I will talk about Linux users who are coders and not average users. So keep this in mind while you read this.
Linux users/coders, who whine and moan and cry how .net is a better enviroment to work with because it has robust features and that linux is not suitable for workstation work.
In the meantime instead of helping out with the community they just sit on their @55 waiting for the community to "take their thumbs out of their..." you know what.
Moaning and whining.
Your thoughts?
WayStar
11-05-2003, 02:32 PM
I guess I'm confused. Are you talking about coders who prefer development tools with lots of "hand-holding" built-in?
-Waylena
bazoukas
11-05-2003, 02:38 PM
I am talking about some linux users (coders) whine about how Linux IDE enviroments are not good and instead of helping out the community (even just a little) they just wait for the community to improve those apps.
BTW I code only in Linux, since I dont have windows in my machine. Are windows IDEs better than the ones Linux has?
Please I would like to know what you think.
bazoukas
11-05-2003, 02:38 PM
ops double post..sowwy
WayStar
11-05-2003, 02:45 PM
I guess I don't have too much of an opinion on this one. I'm not a coder, although I have been starting to muck about a bit. Thus far, my favorite thing is to use vim and then use the command line for compiling and/or running.
What is it that fancy development environments provide other than assistance in keeping things organized?
-Waylena
Icarus
11-05-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by WayStar
What is it that fancy development environments provide other than assistance in keeping things organized?
-Waylena Keeping things organized...it is not uncommon for large projects to contain 1000+ modules that need to link into the main program. Sure you can have a Makefile handle all of these, but you would need to manually edit the file everytime you add/remove a module...when a nice IDE will create the Makefile on the fly for you...saves time, energy and effort.
Satanic Atheist
11-05-2003, 03:13 PM
I'm sure I came across something on Freshmeat the other day which creates Makefiles on the fly for you anyway... I could be wrong, though.
James
WayStar
11-05-2003, 03:19 PM
Ahhh, that would make a huge difference, yes.
Are such tools for Linux really that bad, or are they just different enough that a user accustomed to the MS tools will view them in a negative light?
-Waylena
Mirrorball
11-05-2003, 09:29 PM
Download the free version of Kylix if you want to test an IDE that is similar to MS Visual Studio.
I just use Python. :)
mart_man00
11-05-2003, 09:38 PM
Are windows IDEs better than the ones Linux has? Kdevelop is very nice since it has the doc bar, but Visual C does to. Dev C++ is a nice and small windows ide, but there a linux one too. Its good on either side.
The languages seperate them. How many VB Code monkeys are there in the world? The numbder scares me.
Alot of ideas make make files for you, but there not to hard to learn. Just read most of the make doc, not like what i did and a couple sections. Theres also automake, it has a nice name to it :)
This is the kind of stuff linux excels at.