El_Cu_Guy
09-18-2003, 02:40 PM
The sky must be falling! (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/09/18/microsoft.gates.ap/index.html)
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b00zer
09-18-2003, 03:05 PM
That is quite humorous. :p
sasKuatch
09-18-2003, 07:14 PM
I don't like it.
"... give to get"
I wonder what Billy G's gonna get from this.
"... give to get"
I wonder what Billy G's gonna get from this.
je_fro
09-18-2003, 07:23 PM
First you must embrace your enemy.
Then you slip him the blade.
They've been doing this for 20 years. Ask Jobs.
Then you slip him the blade.
They've been doing this for 20 years. Ask Jobs.
BaVinic
09-18-2003, 07:58 PM
I think is it awful; when a great man like Sir William Gates III, extends a hand of friendship to the Linux Community only to pull back a nub, its mean, its rude and it is just not right.
whhaaat, wow, what a dream, I dreamt I was defending Bill gates. Like that would ever happen.
there is something up with that artical, he is up to something.
BaVinic
whhaaat, wow, what a dream, I dreamt I was defending Bill gates. Like that would ever happen.
there is something up with that artical, he is up to something.
BaVinic
spagnitz
09-18-2003, 08:03 PM
" WELCOME TO THE BORG COLLECTIVE - YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED - YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE COLLECTIVE. WE HAVE ADDED YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOU WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
Lemming
09-18-2003, 08:14 PM
I was reading today in a PC magazine, I forget which one, that the EC have just issued their final warning to Microsoft on the subject of unfair business practices (I think it was).
Keep your friends close, and you enemies closer....
Keep your friends close, and you enemies closer....
hard candy
09-18-2003, 10:09 PM
1. Microsoft Money For Linux 2005- $29.95
2. Microsoft Wallet For Linux 2005- Free
3. Internet Explorer For Linux 2006-Free
4. Windows Messenger For Linux- Free
5. Microsoft Office XML/Linux 2006- $249.95
6. EC announces Microsoft has been cleared of unfair businees practices- 2005
7 U.S. Department of Justice ends monitoring of Microsoft business practices-2006. ;)
2. Microsoft Wallet For Linux 2005- Free
3. Internet Explorer For Linux 2006-Free
4. Windows Messenger For Linux- Free
5. Microsoft Office XML/Linux 2006- $249.95
6. EC announces Microsoft has been cleared of unfair businees practices- 2005
7 U.S. Department of Justice ends monitoring of Microsoft business practices-2006. ;)
Drago
09-18-2003, 10:32 PM
whats billy up to:confused:
El_Cu_Guy
09-18-2003, 11:19 PM
there is something up with that artical, he is up to something.
Wow, that's not what I got. That's not the shock or the rub.
1. MS isn't alone in this. Open source "friend" IBM is too.
2. It will run across a number of platforms and is non-OS specific. "This is a fabric for someone to do e-commerce that's independent of the operating systems that are out there."
3. The two executives said they would turn their developments over to Internet standards bodies. This takes control away from MS and IBM and puts it into the hands of the "community".
4. Gates said the Redmond, Washington-based company's work toward Web services standards would be "royalty free." See #3. Microsoft can't screw anyone financially on this
In a way it means that Microsoft will essentially need to market a version of the product that anyone else can market as well (ie Linux distros). Of course some would argue that MS could make their version incompatible later. That's hard to do with IBM breathing down your neck as well as any other provider.
That my friends, is the shocker. Of course look forward to the impressive PR spins and Ms ringing this for all its worth.
Wow, that's not what I got. That's not the shock or the rub.
1. MS isn't alone in this. Open source "friend" IBM is too.
2. It will run across a number of platforms and is non-OS specific. "This is a fabric for someone to do e-commerce that's independent of the operating systems that are out there."
3. The two executives said they would turn their developments over to Internet standards bodies. This takes control away from MS and IBM and puts it into the hands of the "community".
4. Gates said the Redmond, Washington-based company's work toward Web services standards would be "royalty free." See #3. Microsoft can't screw anyone financially on this
In a way it means that Microsoft will essentially need to market a version of the product that anyone else can market as well (ie Linux distros). Of course some would argue that MS could make their version incompatible later. That's hard to do with IBM breathing down your neck as well as any other provider.
That my friends, is the shocker. Of course look forward to the impressive PR spins and Ms ringing this for all its worth.
Satanic Atheist
09-19-2003, 04:55 AM
" WELCOME TO THE BORG COLLECTIVE - YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED - YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE COLLECTIVE. WE HAVE ADDED YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOU WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
I remember the same being said of Intel:
"I am Pentium of Borg. Division is useless. You will be approximated."
Anyway, it's an interesting article, but I fail to see a reason why Microsoft would want open-source technology. I mean, they tried old-hat marking techniques to "prove" that the Total Operating Cost (TOC) of Windows-based networking was cheaper than Linux ("independant audit") which is pretty unlikely considering the massive amount each company pays for MS licences. Also, they claimed that staffing costs would be higher. Hell, did WE go out and pay to learn Linux client and server construction? I think not...
I'll dig out the article, but if that came out last week and this is now out, you'll have to forgive me for being cynical, but I'd like to see how this develops before I pass any judgement.
Gotta admit, I do like his joke at the end - very Microsoft.
James
I remember the same being said of Intel:
"I am Pentium of Borg. Division is useless. You will be approximated."
Anyway, it's an interesting article, but I fail to see a reason why Microsoft would want open-source technology. I mean, they tried old-hat marking techniques to "prove" that the Total Operating Cost (TOC) of Windows-based networking was cheaper than Linux ("independant audit") which is pretty unlikely considering the massive amount each company pays for MS licences. Also, they claimed that staffing costs would be higher. Hell, did WE go out and pay to learn Linux client and server construction? I think not...
I'll dig out the article, but if that came out last week and this is now out, you'll have to forgive me for being cynical, but I'd like to see how this develops before I pass any judgement.
Gotta admit, I do like his joke at the end - very Microsoft.
James
dduran@linux
09-19-2003, 05:18 AM
It's all about compatibility..
They want their standards to be OUR standards
They want their standards to be OUR standards
sasKuatch
09-19-2003, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by spagnitz
" WELCOME TO THE BORG COLLECTIVE - YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED - YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE COLLECTIVE. WE HAVE ADDED YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOU WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
OT, but I always find that humorous. Reminds of the Communist Manifesto.:p http://www.xs4all.nl/~cgieliam/dolblij.gif
" WELCOME TO THE BORG COLLECTIVE - YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED - YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE COLLECTIVE. WE HAVE ADDED YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOU WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
OT, but I always find that humorous. Reminds of the Communist Manifesto.:p http://www.xs4all.nl/~cgieliam/dolblij.gif
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