phlipant
08-15-2003, 11:03 PM
i couldn`t believe it myself (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.microsoft.com)
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serz
08-15-2003, 11:13 PM
Looks good! :D
psi42
08-15-2003, 11:27 PM
most interesting...
Drago
08-15-2003, 11:34 PM
:cool:
Chadduss
08-16-2003, 07:25 AM
hmm seems they've changed back. But it said before they were using IIS with Linux. How did they pull that off?
Sepero
08-16-2003, 08:09 AM
LOL! Hahahaha! I just saw that on slashdot! It's a good thing I read this thread because I was just about to post that myself. :p
This companies gonna go down hard and they know it. GNU/Linux is growing exponentially and doesn't show signs of slowing.
This companies gonna go down hard and they know it. GNU/Linux is growing exponentially and doesn't show signs of slowing.
bwkaz
08-16-2003, 09:53 AM
Uh... it says Windows Server 2003 at the moment.
They better not have yoinked code from Linux's networking subsystem and used it... because that's one explanation of how they'd get IIS on Linux. The site may have actually been running 2k3 for the entire time, but Netcraft fingerprinted it as Linux because it used the same network stack... :eek:
Not that I actually believe that, but you never know...
They better not have yoinked code from Linux's networking subsystem and used it... because that's one explanation of how they'd get IIS on Linux. The site may have actually been running 2k3 for the entire time, but Netcraft fingerprinted it as Linux because it used the same network stack... :eek:
Not that I actually believe that, but you never know...
carrja99
08-16-2003, 10:53 AM
Well, from what I've heard, netcraft will identify a domain as running IIS on linux when the company has linux functioning as a gateway or firewall with IIS running on PCs behind it.
Like these guys (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.whitehouse.com)
On a side note, MS wasnt running linux, Akamai was. Microsoft handed windowsupdate.com over to Akamai who, coinicidentally, runs linux on it's servers. :D
EDIT: on a side note, windowsupdate.com (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com) is still being held by Akamai, and is still on linux :D
Like these guys (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.whitehouse.com)
On a side note, MS wasnt running linux, Akamai was. Microsoft handed windowsupdate.com over to Akamai who, coinicidentally, runs linux on it's servers. :D
EDIT: on a side note, windowsupdate.com (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com) is still being held by Akamai, and is still on linux :D
bwkaz
08-16-2003, 01:09 PM
I find it slightly amusing that they can't even fingerprint my server (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=kdzbn.homelinux.net), OS-wise at least (which reminds me; I ought to disable Apache's reporting of its version and mod_ssl's version...). I guess that's what happens when you apply the grsecurity patch to the kernel, and enable pretty much everything that it has available...
phlipant
08-16-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by carrja99
On a side note, MS wasnt running linux, Akamai was. Microsoft handed windowsupdate.com over to Akamai who, coinicidentally, runs linux on it's servers. :D
EDIT: on a side note, windowsupdate.com (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com) is still being held by Akamai, and is still on linux :D
i don`t think so. (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=windowsupdate.com) but it would tell us microsoft`s strategy for dealing with denial of service attacks.
On a side note, MS wasnt running linux, Akamai was. Microsoft handed windowsupdate.com over to Akamai who, coinicidentally, runs linux on it's servers. :D
EDIT: on a side note, windowsupdate.com (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com) is still being held by Akamai, and is still on linux :D
i don`t think so. (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=windowsupdate.com) but it would tell us microsoft`s strategy for dealing with denial of service attacks.
El_Cu_Guy
08-16-2003, 09:34 PM
hmm seems they've changed back. But it said before they were using IIS with Linux. How did they pull that off?
Since IIS 6.0 relies heavily on the Nt kernel a port is out of the question.
Perhaps you should have clicked the link directly to the left of the report. Ya know the FAQ
Why do you report impossible operating system/server combinations?
Webservers that operate behind a caching system, load balancer, reverse proxy server or a firewall may sometimes report the operating system of the intermediate machine. Hence reports of 'Microsoft/IIS on Linux' may indicate that either the web server is behind a Linux server that is acting as a reverse proxy, or has configured the Akamai caching system such that the first request to the site goes to one of Akamai's servers [which run Linux], or as in the case of www.walmart.com has been configured to send a misleading signature.
Oddly enough typing microsoft.com rather than www.microsoft.com reveals IIS5 on Windows 2000.
Since IIS 6.0 relies heavily on the Nt kernel a port is out of the question.
Perhaps you should have clicked the link directly to the left of the report. Ya know the FAQ
Why do you report impossible operating system/server combinations?
Webservers that operate behind a caching system, load balancer, reverse proxy server or a firewall may sometimes report the operating system of the intermediate machine. Hence reports of 'Microsoft/IIS on Linux' may indicate that either the web server is behind a Linux server that is acting as a reverse proxy, or has configured the Akamai caching system such that the first request to the site goes to one of Akamai's servers [which run Linux], or as in the case of www.walmart.com has been configured to send a misleading signature.
Oddly enough typing microsoft.com rather than www.microsoft.com reveals IIS5 on Windows 2000.
ghostwalker
08-16-2003, 09:42 PM
Hey, read the FAQ next to the url listed. It seems a little misleading.
psi42
08-19-2003, 01:30 AM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/32385.html
phlipant
08-20-2003, 02:27 AM
microsoft (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=windowsupdate.microsoft.com) seems to be expanding linux operations.
Ludootje
08-21-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by bwkaz
They better not have yoinked code from Linux's networking subsystem and used it... because that's one explanation of how they'd get IIS on Linux.
If they'd do that, they would certainly remove the name 'linux' from all the code :)
They use the Akamai caching servers, against the blaster worm. See it like a gateway running GNU/Linux before their Windows servers running IIS.
They better not have yoinked code from Linux's networking subsystem and used it... because that's one explanation of how they'd get IIS on Linux.
If they'd do that, they would certainly remove the name 'linux' from all the code :)
They use the Akamai caching servers, against the blaster worm. See it like a gateway running GNU/Linux before their Windows servers running IIS.
bwkaz
08-21-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Ludootje
If they'd do that, they would certainly remove the name 'linux' from all the code :) Yeah they would, but that's not how Netcraft decides which OS you're running...
Netcraft fingerprints the results they get when they do certain TCP or IP operations to the machine. Linux has one pattern of responding to an ACK packet without a SYN, for example. Other OS'es may do the same thing as Linux in this case, but when you take a whole ton of different cases together, you can fingerprint fairly well.
If they'd do that, they would certainly remove the name 'linux' from all the code :) Yeah they would, but that's not how Netcraft decides which OS you're running...
Netcraft fingerprints the results they get when they do certain TCP or IP operations to the machine. Linux has one pattern of responding to an ACK packet without a SYN, for example. Other OS'es may do the same thing as Linux in this case, but when you take a whole ton of different cases together, you can fingerprint fairly well.
Ludootje
08-23-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by bwkaz
Yeah they would, but that's not how Netcraft decides which OS you're running...
Netcraft fingerprints the results they get when they do certain TCP or IP operations to the machine. Linux has one pattern of responding to an ACK packet without a SYN, for example. Other OS'es may do the same thing as Linux in this case, but when you take a whole ton of different cases together, you can fingerprint fairly well.
Thanks for the explanation, didn't know netcraft works like nmap. I thought they used a totally different way
Yeah they would, but that's not how Netcraft decides which OS you're running...
Netcraft fingerprints the results they get when they do certain TCP or IP operations to the machine. Linux has one pattern of responding to an ACK packet without a SYN, for example. Other OS'es may do the same thing as Linux in this case, but when you take a whole ton of different cases together, you can fingerprint fairly well.
Thanks for the explanation, didn't know netcraft works like nmap. I thought they used a totally different way
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