dduran@linux
07-12-2003, 07:22 AM
Many people say SCO linux is good....but the question is, where can i get them now?
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mdwatts
07-12-2003, 07:40 AM
You can only download the rpm's and source rpm's and not the iso images unless you either purchase or register (and be accepted) as a developer though I do not know if they will accept SCO Linux developers since they have dropped their Linux line and are now concentrating on Unix.
The actual name is 'SCO Linux Server 4.0 of which by 'Server' indicates it is not freely available much the same as Redhat Advanced Server or any of the other distro companies that produce server enhanced distros.
If this is for your place of business, then I would highly recommend SCO Linux Server 4.0 as in my own opinion, it is a very stable and complete system. I do run it myself as a desktop workstation both at home and at work.
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The last 10 or so posts in this thread (http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=106116) discuss SCO Linux.
The actual name is 'SCO Linux Server 4.0 of which by 'Server' indicates it is not freely available much the same as Redhat Advanced Server or any of the other distro companies that produce server enhanced distros.
If this is for your place of business, then I would highly recommend SCO Linux Server 4.0 as in my own opinion, it is a very stable and complete system. I do run it myself as a desktop workstation both at home and at work.
<edit>
The last 10 or so posts in this thread (http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=106116) discuss SCO Linux.
dduran@linux
07-12-2003, 07:48 AM
in one sentence what is the major strength of SCO Linux? btw in case i can't get a copy, what is a good second choice? not redhat or mandrake ok?
Darkbolt
07-12-2003, 07:50 AM
Going by my personal feelings, I'd say to stay away from SCO. They arent exactly being friendly to the linux community (aside from mdwatts who they just sent a free copy of openlinux if i'm not mistaken?)
but due to that lawsuit with IBM they've halted the download of Caldera OpenLinux if i'm not mistaken
but due to that lawsuit with IBM they've halted the download of Caldera OpenLinux if i'm not mistaken
mdwatts
07-12-2003, 08:06 AM
And if you don't like Microsoft as a company, stay aways from their products too. :p
SCO Linux Server 4.0 includes many extra server applications and kernel patches such as lm_sensors, Access Control Lists, LVM (logical volume management) etc.
Mandrake and Redhat seem to be the most popular for anyone starting out with Linux. Do a bit of research to see which suits your needs and give them a try.
Darkbolt... SCO/Caldera has sent me just about everything they have released for the last couple of years.
eDesktop 2.4
OpenLinux Workstation 3.1 and 3.1.1
OpenLinux Server 3.1 and 3.1.1
SCO Linux Server 4.0
OpenUNIX 8.0 (13 cd's)
I'm not complaining. :cool:
SCO Linux Server 4.0 includes many extra server applications and kernel patches such as lm_sensors, Access Control Lists, LVM (logical volume management) etc.
Mandrake and Redhat seem to be the most popular for anyone starting out with Linux. Do a bit of research to see which suits your needs and give them a try.
Darkbolt... SCO/Caldera has sent me just about everything they have released for the last couple of years.
eDesktop 2.4
OpenLinux Workstation 3.1 and 3.1.1
OpenLinux Server 3.1 and 3.1.1
SCO Linux Server 4.0
OpenUNIX 8.0 (13 cd's)
I'm not complaining. :cool:
dduran@linux
07-12-2003, 08:08 AM
actually at first i was really disgusted with SCO but then when i kept hearing (from mdwatts) that they produce good linux distributions.... well... i just want to give it a try because i am looking for a STABLE release of linux... not that one which will always tell me there is an error in this or that....
i mean i am currently using shrike and i can't even compile programs that i have downloaded... its like after installing the OS that's it!
anyway mdwatts, are you sure you are not a SCO employee just sneaking up on us? =)
i mean i am currently using shrike and i can't even compile programs that i have downloaded... its like after installing the OS that's it!
anyway mdwatts, are you sure you are not a SCO employee just sneaking up on us? =)
Darkbolt
07-12-2003, 08:12 AM
I can see why you wouldnt complain, They've treated you well. I just stated my personal feelings on the company.
At this point in time I've only been using linux off and on for a year, consistantly for a few months, and without windows for about a month...I'm not exactly secure enough with my knowlege to spend alot of money (something I have relatively none of) on linux products...
For now I'll stick with Slackware, which is undoubtably one of the most stable/secure distro's out there...Though I am proud that I paid for a transgaming subscription :)
Sorry to get a bit off topic...I suppose SCO's one of the companies where it treats its users very good, and its non-users very poorly
At this point in time I've only been using linux off and on for a year, consistantly for a few months, and without windows for about a month...I'm not exactly secure enough with my knowlege to spend alot of money (something I have relatively none of) on linux products...
For now I'll stick with Slackware, which is undoubtably one of the most stable/secure distro's out there...Though I am proud that I paid for a transgaming subscription :)
Sorry to get a bit off topic...I suppose SCO's one of the companies where it treats its users very good, and its non-users very poorly
mdwatts
07-12-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by dduran@linux
i mean i am currently using shrike and i can't even compile programs that i have downloaded... its like after installing the OS that's it!
anyway mdwatts, are you sure you are not a SCO employee just sneaking up on us? =)
Did you install the development packages during the initial installation?
I'm not a SCO employee. I started with Caldera Linux back in Dec/99 (when I joined here) and have stuck with them ever since.
A few of their 'bigshot' management even called me at work and arranged a meeting with myself and management last year. One of them was speaking with our senior system programmer at that meeting and I didn't understand a word they said. Everything over my head. That was the meeting they told us in strict confidence about their plans for UnitedLinux. I had a hard time not posting about UL here until it was officially announced.
I would receive a phone call on a monthly basis from the Canadian regional manager asking how I liked their latest release and if I have any problems to report etc.
They've been good to me over the years. :)
i mean i am currently using shrike and i can't even compile programs that i have downloaded... its like after installing the OS that's it!
anyway mdwatts, are you sure you are not a SCO employee just sneaking up on us? =)
Did you install the development packages during the initial installation?
I'm not a SCO employee. I started with Caldera Linux back in Dec/99 (when I joined here) and have stuck with them ever since.
A few of their 'bigshot' management even called me at work and arranged a meeting with myself and management last year. One of them was speaking with our senior system programmer at that meeting and I didn't understand a word they said. Everything over my head. That was the meeting they told us in strict confidence about their plans for UnitedLinux. I had a hard time not posting about UL here until it was officially announced.
I would receive a phone call on a monthly basis from the Canadian regional manager asking how I liked their latest release and if I have any problems to report etc.
They've been good to me over the years. :)
mdwatts
07-12-2003, 08:17 AM
I think it best if I move this over to /dev/random so those 'darn' moderators don't start complaining.
You know how the other mods are. ;)
You know how the other mods are. ;)
BaVinic
07-12-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by dduran@linux
actually at first i was really disgusted with SCO but then when i kept hearing (from mdwatts) that they produce good linux distributions.... well... i just want to give it a try because i am looking for a STABLE release of linux... not that one which will always tell me there is an error in this or that....
i mean i am currently using shrike and i can't even compile programs that i have downloaded... its like after installing the OS that's it!
I have been running RH since version 6.0 (wanna talk about buggy?) but even in 6.0 I was still able to do everything I needed/wanted to. RH9 is no exception, if you installed the right packages on install, and if the programs you are trying to compile are proper versions, there is no reason you should not be able to compile them, if there is a reason ,you can rest assured it is not due to RH9
BaVinic
actually at first i was really disgusted with SCO but then when i kept hearing (from mdwatts) that they produce good linux distributions.... well... i just want to give it a try because i am looking for a STABLE release of linux... not that one which will always tell me there is an error in this or that....
i mean i am currently using shrike and i can't even compile programs that i have downloaded... its like after installing the OS that's it!
I have been running RH since version 6.0 (wanna talk about buggy?) but even in 6.0 I was still able to do everything I needed/wanted to. RH9 is no exception, if you installed the right packages on install, and if the programs you are trying to compile are proper versions, there is no reason you should not be able to compile them, if there is a reason ,you can rest assured it is not due to RH9
BaVinic
dduran@linux
07-12-2003, 08:20 AM
mdwatts....
can you help fill the problem?? (wink wink!)
i mean you are the only one that i know of who has a copy of SCO linux...
can you help fill the problem?? (wink wink!)
i mean you are the only one that i know of who has a copy of SCO linux...
BaVinic
07-12-2003, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by dduran@linux
mdwatts....
can you help fill the problem?? (wink wink!)
i mean you are the only one that i know of who has a copy of SCO linux...
You can get a copy here http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/cart.php/ba/plst/category/10
BaVinic
mdwatts....
can you help fill the problem?? (wink wink!)
i mean you are the only one that i know of who has a copy of SCO linux...
You can get a copy here http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/cart.php/ba/plst/category/10
BaVinic
mdwatts
07-12-2003, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by dduran@linux
mdwatts....
can you help fill the problem?? (wink wink!)
i mean you are the only one that i know of who has a copy of SCO linux...
Sorry... Even though it is a full retail copy (with the manuals), it is 'Not for Resale' and I cannot break my agreement with SCO.
mdwatts....
can you help fill the problem?? (wink wink!)
i mean you are the only one that i know of who has a copy of SCO linux...
Sorry... Even though it is a full retail copy (with the manuals), it is 'Not for Resale' and I cannot break my agreement with SCO.
mdwatts
07-12-2003, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by BaVinic
You can get a copy here http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/cart.php/ba/plst/category/10
BaVinic
Not SCO Linux Server 4.0 though.
dduran@linux... See if you can still register as a developer and then get the development copy.
If you just want a standard Linux distro, then do as I suggested and try Redhat or Mandrake or any of the others.
SCO Linux is based on UnitedLinux of which is also based on SuSE. Try SuSE 8.2
You can get a copy here http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/cart.php/ba/plst/category/10
BaVinic
Not SCO Linux Server 4.0 though.
dduran@linux... See if you can still register as a developer and then get the development copy.
If you just want a standard Linux distro, then do as I suggested and try Redhat or Mandrake or any of the others.
SCO Linux is based on UnitedLinux of which is also based on SuSE. Try SuSE 8.2
BaVinic
07-12-2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by mdwatts
Not SCO Linux Server 4.0 though.
Opps!, my mistake :D
BaVinic
Not SCO Linux Server 4.0 though.
Opps!, my mistake :D
BaVinic
dduran@linux
07-12-2003, 08:48 AM
There, i just registered... but then i don't have a company.. just me and my group. im still studying in univ, hope that they still accept me..
anyway the reason why i am looking for the "perfect linux " ok, best linux is that i am promoting it to my friends and even in the universities (we have a neighbor school and i know many people from that place)....
anyway we have our local distro called bayanihan linux and "something" linux but all of these are just based on redhat...
i want to help introduce people to linux but the problem is... well i still have my own problems to settle...
anyway the reason why i am looking for the "perfect linux " ok, best linux is that i am promoting it to my friends and even in the universities (we have a neighbor school and i know many people from that place)....
anyway we have our local distro called bayanihan linux and "something" linux but all of these are just based on redhat...
i want to help introduce people to linux but the problem is... well i still have my own problems to settle...
dduran@linux
07-12-2003, 08:52 AM
its located at
www.sco.com/developers/membership/
btw i'm so used to linux that i find it hard to navigate in command prompt in MSWin
you know the / and \
c:/
cd c:/winnt/
hehehehe.....
www.sco.com/developers/membership/
btw i'm so used to linux that i find it hard to navigate in command prompt in MSWin
you know the / and \
c:/
cd c:/winnt/
hehehehe.....
mdwatts
07-12-2003, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by dduran@linux
btw i'm so used to linux that i find it hard to navigate in command prompt in MSWin
you know the / and \
c:/
cd c:/winnt/
hehehehe.....
I found the solution to that... I just don't use Windows. :)
btw i'm so used to linux that i find it hard to navigate in command prompt in MSWin
you know the / and \
c:/
cd c:/winnt/
hehehehe.....
I found the solution to that... I just don't use Windows. :)
Darkbolt
07-12-2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by dduran@linux
anyway the reason why i am looking for the "perfect linux " ok, best linux is that i am promoting it to my friends and even in the universities (we have a neighbor school and i know many people from that place)....
You're looking for the perfect linux?
I happen to know where it is if youwant to know ;)
www.slackware.com
Nice try mdwatts :P
anyway the reason why i am looking for the "perfect linux " ok, best linux is that i am promoting it to my friends and even in the universities (we have a neighbor school and i know many people from that place)....
You're looking for the perfect linux?
I happen to know where it is if youwant to know ;)
www.slackware.com
Nice try mdwatts :P
jglen490
07-12-2003, 11:48 PM
My understanding about SCO, considering their current litigious mood, is they are supporting their current customers, but not distributing to new customers.
My personal feeling is that regardless of the merits (or demerits) of SCO's distribution, SCO as a company is not a friend of Linux.
My personal feeling is that regardless of the merits (or demerits) of SCO's distribution, SCO as a company is not a friend of Linux.
hop-frog
07-13-2003, 12:53 AM
Is it calmer around here all of a sudden? Only a month ago, anyone who suggested that SCO might be telling the truth would be chased of JL at the end of a pitch fork. Asking where to get a copy would have been suicide. Is everyone finally realizing that SCO is the good guys?
Alex Cavnar, aka alc6379
07-13-2003, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by hop-frog
Is it calmer around here all of a sudden? Only a month ago, anyone who suggested that SCO might be telling the truth would be chased of JL at the end of a pitch fork. Asking where to get a copy would have been suicide. Is everyone finally realizing that SCO is the good guys?
Um... no. Not that I know of.
I think that all of the shock has worn off of SCO having a hissy. That's one gripe I had with SCO, if I could have had any: They do make decent software.
Personally, I don't care for SCO OpenServer. It's stable as all get-out, but the interface is clunky. I like being able to use the arrow keys while I edit my command lines. The availability of shells other than csh and ksh was lacking, even from their skunkworks packages. But, the upside to it was that a box running SCO OpenServer can run for YEARS, given the logs are rotated and the box has enough disk space. And that's even if the box is heavily used.
Caldera OpenLinux Workstation was nice, but it did seem to be engineered from the outset to be just that-- a workstation OS. I mean, by default nothing was enabled-- no telnet, no ftp, not even ssh. It makes sense, as a workstation has no need for those services running on the box. In my personal opinion, Since I have a copy of OpenLinux Workstation, I would seriously consider deploying it in my organization if I needed a nicely running desktop solution.
Personally, I can acknowledge when a company makes a decent product but makes stupid decisions. :)
Is it calmer around here all of a sudden? Only a month ago, anyone who suggested that SCO might be telling the truth would be chased of JL at the end of a pitch fork. Asking where to get a copy would have been suicide. Is everyone finally realizing that SCO is the good guys?
Um... no. Not that I know of.
I think that all of the shock has worn off of SCO having a hissy. That's one gripe I had with SCO, if I could have had any: They do make decent software.
Personally, I don't care for SCO OpenServer. It's stable as all get-out, but the interface is clunky. I like being able to use the arrow keys while I edit my command lines. The availability of shells other than csh and ksh was lacking, even from their skunkworks packages. But, the upside to it was that a box running SCO OpenServer can run for YEARS, given the logs are rotated and the box has enough disk space. And that's even if the box is heavily used.
Caldera OpenLinux Workstation was nice, but it did seem to be engineered from the outset to be just that-- a workstation OS. I mean, by default nothing was enabled-- no telnet, no ftp, not even ssh. It makes sense, as a workstation has no need for those services running on the box. In my personal opinion, Since I have a copy of OpenLinux Workstation, I would seriously consider deploying it in my organization if I needed a nicely running desktop solution.
Personally, I can acknowledge when a company makes a decent product but makes stupid decisions. :)
CMonster
07-13-2003, 02:49 AM
in one sentence what is the major strength of SCO Linux?
You should find SCO Linux to have the best of both UNIX and Linux with the assurance that you will not be sued for using it .... how's that for one sentence? ...too bad it doesn't exist
btw in case i can't get a copy, what is a good second choice? not redhat or mandrake ok? O definately you should get Super Linux (http://www.freebsd.org) in your case
You should find SCO Linux to have the best of both UNIX and Linux with the assurance that you will not be sued for using it .... how's that for one sentence? ...too bad it doesn't exist
btw in case i can't get a copy, what is a good second choice? not redhat or mandrake ok? O definately you should get Super Linux (http://www.freebsd.org) in your case
GhostDawg
07-13-2003, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by dduran@linux
anyway the reason why i am looking for the "perfect linux " ok, best linux is that i am promoting it to my friends and even in the universities (we have a neighbor school and i know many people from that place)....
i want to help introduce people to linux but the problem is... well i still have my own problems to settle...
Why not use Knoppix or Mepis (http://www.mepis.org/) Linux to introduce your friends to it. They both can be ran from cd disc without installing?
anyway the reason why i am looking for the "perfect linux " ok, best linux is that i am promoting it to my friends and even in the universities (we have a neighbor school and i know many people from that place)....
i want to help introduce people to linux but the problem is... well i still have my own problems to settle...
Why not use Knoppix or Mepis (http://www.mepis.org/) Linux to introduce your friends to it. They both can be ran from cd disc without installing?
mdwatts
07-13-2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Darkbolt
You're looking for the perfect linux?
I happen to know where it is if youwant to know ;)
www.sco.com
Darkbolt... My new best buddy. ;)
You're looking for the perfect linux?
I happen to know where it is if youwant to know ;)
www.sco.com
Darkbolt... My new best buddy. ;)
Darkbolt
07-13-2003, 03:15 PM
Mdwatts, I think you're jealous :p
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