garskoci
06-07-2003, 01:19 PM
The July issue of Linux Journal has an article that covers Linux on an Xbox!!! Man, Billy's nads must be a bit more frosty these days!!!! :D
Click to See Complete Forum and Search --> : Linux on Xbox
Mantra_Locust
06-07-2003, 01:40 PM
Heh, I can't believe you're just hearing about this, it's been out for a while (:
garskoci
06-07-2003, 03:17 PM
Oooops. :eek:
deanrantala
06-07-2003, 09:46 PM
you can install linux (or run it) on an Xbox?!
HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
glussier
06-07-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by deanrantala
you can install linux (or run it) on an Xbox?!
HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.google.com/linux?hl=fr&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=linux+on+xbox&lr=
It's about time some people learn about http://www.google.com/linux
you can install linux (or run it) on an Xbox?!
HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.google.com/linux?hl=fr&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=linux+on+xbox&lr=
It's about time some people learn about http://www.google.com/linux
Ryochan7
06-08-2003, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by glussier
http://www.google.com/linux?hl=fr&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=linux+on+xbox&lr=
It's about time some people learn about http://www.google.com/linux
Why is it whenever anyone ask a question on this forum anymore I just see a reply telling people to go to Google?
http://www.google.com/linux?hl=fr&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=linux+on+xbox&lr=
It's about time some people learn about http://www.google.com/linux
Why is it whenever anyone ask a question on this forum anymore I just see a reply telling people to go to Google?
bones996
06-08-2003, 03:05 AM
Not to be mean, but some of us find it more satisfying & easier to rremember when we have to find the answers , or make it work, for ourselves when we hunt for the answers before posting. It's always a good thing to remember how to do something by yourself rather than rely on someone else & google linux has lots of threads ;) that will/can help.
Ryochan7
06-08-2003, 03:12 AM
True, but most people don't want to look, which is sad.
I remember trying to mod my XBox just so I could try Linux. I had never had any previous soildering experience and I didn't want to try a PC version as of then. I looked over a good amount of tutorials, but they couldn't make up for my error. That was the dumbest thing I ever did and now my XBox is a DeadBox. I hope to get it replaced one of these days so I can enjoy DOAXBV again.
At least ruining my Xbox got me to try regular Mandrake just to try Linux.
I remember trying to mod my XBox just so I could try Linux. I had never had any previous soildering experience and I didn't want to try a PC version as of then. I looked over a good amount of tutorials, but they couldn't make up for my error. That was the dumbest thing I ever did and now my XBox is a DeadBox. I hope to get it replaced one of these days so I can enjoy DOAXBV again.
At least ruining my Xbox got me to try regular Mandrake just to try Linux.
glussier
06-08-2003, 09:50 AM
Why is it whenever anyone ask a question on this forum anymore I just see a reply telling people to go to Google?
Because, first google/linux is an excellent tool and second, most probably that the person giving you an answer to the type of question which was asked, would use the google/linux search tool. So, why not save one step and do it yourself. I'm not saying that the forum should be replaced by google/linux, but that this is a very good first step in solving a problem.
Because, first google/linux is an excellent tool and second, most probably that the person giving you an answer to the type of question which was asked, would use the google/linux search tool. So, why not save one step and do it yourself. I'm not saying that the forum should be replaced by google/linux, but that this is a very good first step in solving a problem.
Syntaxis
06-08-2003, 10:26 AM
Check out the official homepage of Xbox Linux at http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net.
My personal favourite tutorial is "Detailed HOWTO on installing Ed's Debian Distro" at http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/articles.php?aid=20030026043009. Of course I'm biased, but apt-get on the Xbox just rocks. :)
My personal favourite tutorial is "Detailed HOWTO on installing Ed's Debian Distro" at http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/articles.php?aid=20030026043009. Of course I'm biased, but apt-get on the Xbox just rocks. :)
AlexPlank
06-08-2003, 11:37 AM
I really hate it when people complain about our telling them to use google. The response that Ryochan7 gave you is more than enough. I mean its not like we get paid for helping you guys with problems. Ryochan held your hand even more than i would. I would have just said go to google instead of actually typing the search for you and posting the results. Why should we, who are volunteering our time, go to google, search for the thing you want to know about, and then post the site, when we know (possibly because w'eve googled the search before and found a good site concerning the topic in question) that you will find a very helpful site if you just query google. I think you should be ashamed for that comment. We are not your slaves. The fact that someone points you to google should be percieved as helpful since they take their time to post the response and they know that google will tell you what you need to know and more.
Syntaxis
06-08-2003, 11:54 AM
Well said! :)
It's a variant of "RTFM", except rather more helpful since you're actually being told where to look. "RTFM" and derivatives are a perfectly acceptable response to a question with a documented response/solution, provided that whoever said it makes it clear *which* document/manual/section one should effing read in the first place.
It's a variant of "RTFM", except rather more helpful since you're actually being told where to look. "RTFM" and derivatives are a perfectly acceptable response to a question with a documented response/solution, provided that whoever said it makes it clear *which* document/manual/section one should effing read in the first place.
deanrantala
06-08-2003, 03:15 PM
Wow, the sh*t I can start is really something...
I'm sorry If I caused a problem, I myself never expected anyone to search FOR me, I only asked because it was convinient. I manage a 7 workstation network for my parents financial firm (wich includes a crude mail server and file server). I also manage to keep up with 4 other mojor clients I work with, I perform an average of 3 upgrades, and 4 custom biult machines a day. I also own 5 very expensive show horses at the moment that I must feed and clean stalls for twice a day. I manage to do this between 6 am - 8 pm. I work very hard all day helping people (going out of my way often), and did not feel it a sin to ask a simple question. If someone has an imediate answer that they can give me quickly, fine. I never expected a walk through tutorial on the subject. The link that Ryochan7 provided was more than enough (thank you). If you don't have an answer, also fine. But to start a flame over this is childish, I never *expected* help from anyone and I never do. If you can help, thanks. If I can help you, post, and I'll help if I can. Once again, sorry if I caused anyone that much hassle.:rolleyes:
I'm sorry If I caused a problem, I myself never expected anyone to search FOR me, I only asked because it was convinient. I manage a 7 workstation network for my parents financial firm (wich includes a crude mail server and file server). I also manage to keep up with 4 other mojor clients I work with, I perform an average of 3 upgrades, and 4 custom biult machines a day. I also own 5 very expensive show horses at the moment that I must feed and clean stalls for twice a day. I manage to do this between 6 am - 8 pm. I work very hard all day helping people (going out of my way often), and did not feel it a sin to ask a simple question. If someone has an imediate answer that they can give me quickly, fine. I never expected a walk through tutorial on the subject. The link that Ryochan7 provided was more than enough (thank you). If you don't have an answer, also fine. But to start a flame over this is childish, I never *expected* help from anyone and I never do. If you can help, thanks. If I can help you, post, and I'll help if I can. Once again, sorry if I caused anyone that much hassle.:rolleyes:
Syntaxis
06-08-2003, 03:39 PM
Don't worry about it. :)
It's no skin off our hides. We won't declare a blood feud on you or anything silly like that. We'll just ignore you if you don't bother doing even elementary research first. Note: I'm not so arrogant as to claim to speak for the community; "we" in the above context refers to people who share the exasperation with absolute laziness that AlexPlank expressed in his post.
I would say that AlexPlank's post is very helpful, in that it clearly outlines what you'll find is a very common sentiment on these forums: If you can't even be bothered to perform a cursory search in a search engine, which would probably take the same amount of time as you've spent on this thread if not less, why should people bother to help you? You're not tapping their expertise, you're asking them to be your search drones.
You've been told where to look. Now, rather than posting again in this thread, I suggest that you actually visit some of the links that have been suggested to you. It'll probably take less time, and the answers that you seek are waiting for you at the far end. Think of it as the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow; all you have to do is get off your arse, leave your horses' side for a scant few moments, and go there in your browser.
The reason that it's important to nip things like this in the bud is that threads like this detract from people who *have* taken the few seconds required to call up Google and have genuine problems requiring at least some level of expertise other than just pasting a link.
Also, this is not a flame. Somewhat lacking are the ad hominem attacks, the pointless insults, and the constant failure to even acknowledge the issues that the other side raised. Oh, and one post does not count as a flamewar. :)
It's no skin off our hides. We won't declare a blood feud on you or anything silly like that. We'll just ignore you if you don't bother doing even elementary research first. Note: I'm not so arrogant as to claim to speak for the community; "we" in the above context refers to people who share the exasperation with absolute laziness that AlexPlank expressed in his post.
I would say that AlexPlank's post is very helpful, in that it clearly outlines what you'll find is a very common sentiment on these forums: If you can't even be bothered to perform a cursory search in a search engine, which would probably take the same amount of time as you've spent on this thread if not less, why should people bother to help you? You're not tapping their expertise, you're asking them to be your search drones.
You've been told where to look. Now, rather than posting again in this thread, I suggest that you actually visit some of the links that have been suggested to you. It'll probably take less time, and the answers that you seek are waiting for you at the far end. Think of it as the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow; all you have to do is get off your arse, leave your horses' side for a scant few moments, and go there in your browser.
The reason that it's important to nip things like this in the bud is that threads like this detract from people who *have* taken the few seconds required to call up Google and have genuine problems requiring at least some level of expertise other than just pasting a link.
Also, this is not a flame. Somewhat lacking are the ad hominem attacks, the pointless insults, and the constant failure to even acknowledge the issues that the other side raised. Oh, and one post does not count as a flamewar. :)
RHLinuxNewbie
06-08-2003, 03:56 PM
Shallax has a Gentoo distro for the XBox.. although I think it requires a DVD-Burner to transfer the files from your comp to the box.. not sure though.
http://gentoox.shallax.com/
I see him in IRC all the time.. irc.gamesnet.net #linux
http://gentoox.shallax.com/
I see him in IRC all the time.. irc.gamesnet.net #linux
deanrantala
06-08-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Syntaxis
Don't worry about it. :)
It's no skin off our hides. We won't declare a blood feud on you or anything silly like that. We'll just ignore you if you don't bother doing even elementary research first. Note: I'm not so arrogant as to claim to speak for the community; "we" in the above context refers to people who share the exasperation with absolute laziness that AlexPlank expressed in his post.
I would say that AlexPlank's post is very helpful, in that it clearly outlines what you'll find is a very common sentiment on these forums: If you can't even be bothered to perform a cursory search in a search engine, which would probably take the same amount of time as you've spent on this thread if not less, why should people bother to help you? You're not tapping their expertise, you're asking them to be your search drones.
You've been told where to look. Now, rather than posting again in this thread, I suggest that you actually visit some of the links that have been suggested to you. It'll probably take less time, and the answers that you seek are waiting for you at the far end. Think of it as the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow; all you have to do is get off your arse, leave your horses' side for a scant few moments, and go there in your browser.
The reason that it's important to nip things like this in the bud is that threads like this detract from people who *have* taken the few seconds required to call up Google and have genuine problems requiring at least some level of expertise other than just pasting a link.
Also, this is not a flame. Somewhat lacking are the ad hominem attacks, the pointless insults, and the constant failure to even acknowledge the issues that the other side raised. Oh, and one post does not count as a flamewar. :)
Your point is well considered.
ps: Also found much good help on the links mentioned above, thanks again.
Don't worry about it. :)
It's no skin off our hides. We won't declare a blood feud on you or anything silly like that. We'll just ignore you if you don't bother doing even elementary research first. Note: I'm not so arrogant as to claim to speak for the community; "we" in the above context refers to people who share the exasperation with absolute laziness that AlexPlank expressed in his post.
I would say that AlexPlank's post is very helpful, in that it clearly outlines what you'll find is a very common sentiment on these forums: If you can't even be bothered to perform a cursory search in a search engine, which would probably take the same amount of time as you've spent on this thread if not less, why should people bother to help you? You're not tapping their expertise, you're asking them to be your search drones.
You've been told where to look. Now, rather than posting again in this thread, I suggest that you actually visit some of the links that have been suggested to you. It'll probably take less time, and the answers that you seek are waiting for you at the far end. Think of it as the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow; all you have to do is get off your arse, leave your horses' side for a scant few moments, and go there in your browser.
The reason that it's important to nip things like this in the bud is that threads like this detract from people who *have* taken the few seconds required to call up Google and have genuine problems requiring at least some level of expertise other than just pasting a link.
Also, this is not a flame. Somewhat lacking are the ad hominem attacks, the pointless insults, and the constant failure to even acknowledge the issues that the other side raised. Oh, and one post does not count as a flamewar. :)
Your point is well considered.
ps: Also found much good help on the links mentioned above, thanks again.
AlexPlank
06-08-2003, 04:16 PM
You dont need a hardware mod to run linux on xbox now. There is a way to do so exploiting savegame in (i forgot name of game)
Syntaxis
06-08-2003, 04:58 PM
There is a way to do so exploiting savegame in (i forgot name of game) 007: Agent Under Fire is one game that can be used for such a purpose. Perhaps (hopefully! :)) more have been discovered since then.
Check out the original thread on the subject here: http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=10520
Check out the original thread on the subject here: http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=10520
Ryochan7
06-08-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by AlexPlank
You dont need a hardware mod to run linux on xbox now. There is a way to do so exploiting savegame in (i forgot name of game)
That was one of the last things I did with my Xbox before I broke it. I spent about $120 for equipment to make a Mega X-Key and for a copy of 007 Agent Under Fire just to break my Xbox. I sure am stupid.
Even though the gamesave does work, it is only of the Live version, which is only about 14MB and doesn't include that much. The main reason I needed the gamesave was so I could flash the TSOP, not sure if that's the right term anymore, so I could have my own modded Xbox. Xbox Linux was only one of the reasons I wanted to mod my Xbox but it's wasn't the primary reason. I mainly wanted to mod my Xbox so I could play wonderful DOAXBV the way it was meant to be played, with all the girls nude. I know that I'm a perv; all that money spent just to watch some polygonal boobies flopping around and then end up destroying my Xbox in the process.
Now to go a little off topic, I think that the hard work of people to make Xbox Linux possible and Sony Linux better has, and will continue, to bring more people to the Linux world.
Also, I wasn't the one who gave the search for people to look under. I was merely quoting a previous response. People really should look some stuff on there own so that this forum won't be so flooded. Later.
You dont need a hardware mod to run linux on xbox now. There is a way to do so exploiting savegame in (i forgot name of game)
That was one of the last things I did with my Xbox before I broke it. I spent about $120 for equipment to make a Mega X-Key and for a copy of 007 Agent Under Fire just to break my Xbox. I sure am stupid.
Even though the gamesave does work, it is only of the Live version, which is only about 14MB and doesn't include that much. The main reason I needed the gamesave was so I could flash the TSOP, not sure if that's the right term anymore, so I could have my own modded Xbox. Xbox Linux was only one of the reasons I wanted to mod my Xbox but it's wasn't the primary reason. I mainly wanted to mod my Xbox so I could play wonderful DOAXBV the way it was meant to be played, with all the girls nude. I know that I'm a perv; all that money spent just to watch some polygonal boobies flopping around and then end up destroying my Xbox in the process.
Now to go a little off topic, I think that the hard work of people to make Xbox Linux possible and Sony Linux better has, and will continue, to bring more people to the Linux world.
Also, I wasn't the one who gave the search for people to look under. I was merely quoting a previous response. People really should look some stuff on there own so that this forum won't be so flooded. Later.
AlexPlank
06-09-2003, 09:01 AM
I really applaud your positive attidude towards the XBOX linux despite the fact that you ruined the xbox while trying to mod it. A lot of people would have a post complaining about the "stupid xbox people" or the
"stupid linux people." Why is your live version only 14mb?
"stupid linux people." Why is your live version only 14mb?
Hayl
06-09-2003, 09:23 AM
hey!
what are all you linux people buying microsoft proprietary systems for? :) <giggles>
what are all you linux people buying microsoft proprietary systems for? :) <giggles>
Ryochan7
06-09-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Hayl
hey!
what are all you linux people buying microsoft proprietary systems for? :) <giggles>
I bet that most people would say because it is a cheap alternative to a PC, which that's all the Xbox is in reality. My only reason was to leer at the DOA girls. I have been a fan of the series ever since DOA2 for the Dreamcast, which hasn't been that long, and I just wanted to play what Tecmo would end up producing for the Xbox. I have thought about getting a PS2 just because of my newly found hate for Microsoft, but DOA Online will be out soon, so I am confused. To PS2 or to Xbox, that is the question.
The 14MB version of Xbox Linux is the one that comes with the 007 gamesave and that's what is put onto the Mega X-Key. A Mega X-Key is only 32MB, so there is some room left for other utilities, but I would not really know how to go about using them. I think the apps have to be premade for Xbox Linux because you can't build apps from source on it. I remember hearing sometime back about someone being able to actually put a version of X Windows with the 007 exploit and an MP3 player; I can't remember the application name but it wasn't XMMS.
hey!
what are all you linux people buying microsoft proprietary systems for? :) <giggles>
I bet that most people would say because it is a cheap alternative to a PC, which that's all the Xbox is in reality. My only reason was to leer at the DOA girls. I have been a fan of the series ever since DOA2 for the Dreamcast, which hasn't been that long, and I just wanted to play what Tecmo would end up producing for the Xbox. I have thought about getting a PS2 just because of my newly found hate for Microsoft, but DOA Online will be out soon, so I am confused. To PS2 or to Xbox, that is the question.
The 14MB version of Xbox Linux is the one that comes with the 007 gamesave and that's what is put onto the Mega X-Key. A Mega X-Key is only 32MB, so there is some room left for other utilities, but I would not really know how to go about using them. I think the apps have to be premade for Xbox Linux because you can't build apps from source on it. I remember hearing sometime back about someone being able to actually put a version of X Windows with the 007 exploit and an MP3 player; I can't remember the application name but it wasn't XMMS.
Ryochan7
06-28-2003, 12:28 AM
It's time to resurrect a very old thread. Well, I don't know if anyone has been keeping up on Xbox news in the past few weeks, but now the 007 hack has gone one step further and now it can run just about any homebrew app for the Xbox on an unmodded Xbox, including a full version of Xbox Linux. I have only tried Xbox Media Player 2.4 and EvoX with this new method and both programs work. My Deadbox isn't exactly dead after all; it's just has no sound and the clock never stays set. I was just messing around with my Deadbox looking at the wonderful green-to-red blinking light I had been used to seeing and then I got bored so I open the Xbox up and noticed some excess solder that I forgot to remove. After that, when I turned on the Xbox, I still had the blinking light and a black screen, but magically, when I hit the eject button, the Xbox booted. I don't know how, but it's pretty funny.
Well, even though there is no sound, I can still have fun messing with the 007 hack; I don't care for Xbox games anymore, not even DOAXBV. There is also a way with the new hack to actually play DOAXBV with the characters nude, though I don't care anymore since I traded in almost all my Xbox games, except for 007 AUF, and got a PS2.
I have been interested in homebrew apps for consoles since DCemulation and I think that it is funny that now people finally have the power to do what they want with their Xbox. Maybe this will be the end for the Xbox since there are some commercial games that can be signed with XBEdump and played on the Xbox with this new hack.
"I've got mail, Yay!"
Well, even though there is no sound, I can still have fun messing with the 007 hack; I don't care for Xbox games anymore, not even DOAXBV. There is also a way with the new hack to actually play DOAXBV with the characters nude, though I don't care anymore since I traded in almost all my Xbox games, except for 007 AUF, and got a PS2.
I have been interested in homebrew apps for consoles since DCemulation and I think that it is funny that now people finally have the power to do what they want with their Xbox. Maybe this will be the end for the Xbox since there are some commercial games that can be signed with XBEdump and played on the Xbox with this new hack.
"I've got mail, Yay!"
sharth
06-28-2003, 12:56 AM
go read slashdot, post on this stuff.
Gertrude
07-04-2003, 10:53 AM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/31571.html
Hayl
07-04-2003, 11:03 AM
2 questions :
1. can you still play xbox games after modding it to run linux?
2. can you still play games on a ps2 after modding it to run linux?
1. can you still play xbox games after modding it to run linux?
2. can you still play games on a ps2 after modding it to run linux?
Gertrude
07-04-2003, 11:24 AM
1.) Yes
2.) No clue
EDIT:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-06-30
2.) No clue
EDIT:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-06-30
sharth
07-04-2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Hayl
2 questions :
1. can you still play xbox games after modding it to run linux? there are some mod chips (if you are planning on going that route, that have an on - off switch. that way, as long as you always make sure that you set it off, you can also play xbox live, and not get blacklisted. if you accidntily set it to on once, well, no more live. but its a way to do that. I don't know how xbox live deals with the lack of mod chip with some of the newer methods though.
and lol on the comic :)
2 questions :
1. can you still play xbox games after modding it to run linux? there are some mod chips (if you are planning on going that route, that have an on - off switch. that way, as long as you always make sure that you set it off, you can also play xbox live, and not get blacklisted. if you accidntily set it to on once, well, no more live. but its a way to do that. I don't know how xbox live deals with the lack of mod chip with some of the newer methods though.
and lol on the comic :)
Gertrude
07-05-2003, 02:06 AM
and lol on the comic
The funny thing about that is that it is so true...
At least most of the time.
The funny thing about that is that it is so true...
At least most of the time.
SuperNu
07-05-2003, 10:51 AM
Hayl, you don't need to mod your PS2 to run Linux on it. Sony sells, a Linux PS2 kit online. Here (http://www.us.playstation.com/hardware/more/SCPH-97047.asp) is a link to Sony's site about the PS2 Linux kit. There is an official PS2 Linux page here (http://playstation2-linux.com/). The kit is supposed to come with a lot of PS2 documentation and schematics that game developers receive.
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SDS
07-05-2003, 12:09 PM
Free-X released the "Full Disclosure" about their exploit here: http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-July/010895.html
It's interesting, although it's simply exploiting a flaw in the Xbox Dashboard. Microsoft could update the flaw very easily if you play Xbox Live. Although, if you never go online, they won't be able to update the flaw for new Xboxes for like another 6 months, at least. So, there's still a bit of time for Xbox hacking now. With the exploit, I assume it's very easy to pirate Xbox games now. You could probably wirte your own boot program and stuff to run pirated games and stuff. That's all over my head, though.
It's interesting, although it's simply exploiting a flaw in the Xbox Dashboard. Microsoft could update the flaw very easily if you play Xbox Live. Although, if you never go online, they won't be able to update the flaw for new Xboxes for like another 6 months, at least. So, there's still a bit of time for Xbox hacking now. With the exploit, I assume it's very easy to pirate Xbox games now. You could probably wirte your own boot program and stuff to run pirated games and stuff. That's all over my head, though.
Ryochan7
07-05-2003, 02:56 PM
Sweet, now my wannabe Xbox modding was totally in vain. Well, I guess that it doesn't really matter to me anymore, but if this new exploit had the capability to run homebrew software, like XBMP, then that would be cool. No matter how tempted I am, I must never get another Xbox. Another good note that I'm seeing in some forums is the fact some people believe that this new exploit will ruin the Xbox into a Dreamcast-like death. Well, good, then we won't have to deal with Microsoft trying to overrun every single market in the world.
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