MozillaFirebird logo = LAME

[El_Cu_Guy]

How's this instead?

[hop-frog]

Perhaps you could provide a link to the lame logo for those who are still using the browser with the fire-breathing T-Rex?

I really like the one you posted, but I have difficultly in picturing how it will cram into 22x22 and 32x32 pixel icons to put on my desktop.

[El_Cu_Guy]

Here's the lame logo plus some other good pics.

http://phoenix.nyctophilia.net/phoenixbyme.gif

Good for icons? (play with the resolution yourself)
http://phoenix.nyctophilia.net/phoenix4.jpg

[Nuada Storm]

I actually like the default one better. However you could probably change it on your system with XUL if you look deep enough.

[hop-frog]

You are right, that is lame. It looks like a burning goose.

Are they removing all of the communist stuff from M/F?

[Nuada Storm]

WHo knows... Since AOL has signed an open-ended contract with Microsoft with a minimum of seven years and has publicly stated that there is no further value in the Netscape/Mozilla subsidiary, it will be interesting to see if either of them are around in a year.

[sploo22]

Better hold onto the source then :D

[El_Cu_Guy]

Since AOL has signed an open-ended contract with Microsoft with a minimum of seven years

Open-ended how? AOL simply was aloud to renew its royalty-free license. So what? Excerpts from the settlement suggest that this is non-eclusive and non-binding.

and has publicly stated that there is no further value in the Netscape/Mozilla subsidiary,

When? All I've read is "not at this time" when asked if Netscape/Mozilla would be spun off. AOL has been saying for years that IE has killed Netscape. Before during and now after. Same old rhetoric.

it will be interesting to see if either of them are around in a year.

Mozilla has other sponsors. One of which is Red Hat. I'm not saying this isn't hurting Mozilla. I'm wondering how all the changes will effect Mozilla not just this one.

[Nuada Storm]

The article that I read about it on Marketwatch or some such business site quoted the CEO of Timewarner as saying they hadn't decided to divest the Netscape Subsidiary and its properties or dissolve it. Either way it sounds like doom for it unless someone steps up with at least $750 million dollars.

[El_Cu_Guy]

They've also been toying with the idea to sell off AOL and Return Time Warner to a media company. What's your point?

Same old rhetoric. Apparently, you haven't been paying attention. Please go stand in the corner with the "MS ads on JL" thread starters.

I think this is one of many factors that causing change throughout Mozilla.org. The other is Opera. One of the greatest assest for Mozilla was that is was an open source application suite that could easily be used in numerous projects. Opera apparently has been kicking them around quite a bit. Now Opera is becoming more of an application suite. One more factor is the number of Gecko/Mozilla based browsers. Their selling point of purely less bloat rather than function and features will be wiped out when Mozilla Firebird kicks into high gear and the Mozilla [app suite] bloat is cleared out.

[mchangun]

are you the guy that got *****ed a cpl months ago for starting posts just to get an argument going?

[El_Cu_Guy]

I don't start too many posts or arguments, but I do generally finish them :)

I don't start posts just to piss people off. That's a waste of their and infinitely more important, MY time.

[serz]

I have to say that I don't like it much :(

The could make a better one... :confused:

[Alex Cavnar, aka alc6379]

Originally posted by El_Cu_Guy
I don't start too many posts or arguments, but I do generally finish them :)

I don't start posts just to piss people off. That's a waste of their and infinitely more important, MY time.

ZING!!!

Score one for the Cu_Guy!

But seriously... if I had a vote... I'd go for your suggestion...

[JohnT]

I seem to have other things to be concerned about rather than lame logos, but quality control was never my forte either. I honestly hope this gets sorted out....it could get ugly real fast.

[hop-frog]

I just tried Firebird 0.6. I thought it was supposed to be faster than Mozilla. It is slower than Mozilla.

They sell it as lean and fast. By the time they get all of the bugs ironed out, they'll have added so many new features that it we no better than the next bloated browser. Just look at where Opera is headed.

[raab]

Try phoenix, it's like Mozilla but pretty small and fast.

[hop-frog]

Originally posted by raab
Try phoenix, it's like Mozilla but pretty small and fast.
Mozilla Firebird is the same thing. I'm not sure if Firebird a branch off of the Phoenix project and is Phoenix still being developed somewhere else, but the homepage has me redirected here (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/).

[El_Cu_Guy]

It's Mozilla Firebird. After Mozilla App Suite 1.4 it will be known as Mozllia Browser.

I've been using Firebird for quite awhile and I'm not too impressed. It's a good browser but I really like the old Mozilla/Netscape Navigator UI. There's a hell of a lot more control. I still can't seem to stop wanting to click Edit >> Preferences. I like the old Sidebar and how easy it was to expand on the fly without clicking all around or remembering keyboard shortcuts.

More than likely I'll be switching back to old Mozilla (1.4) at least until 1.0 )or until it's refined a bit mo9re and doesn't crash when using it for online banking which old Mozilla never did). This time however, I know exactly what components I use so I won't be installing all the extras.

[CMonster]

El_Cu_Guy -the logo you proposed is very nice

[El_Cu_Guy]

Which one? The two splash screen logos or the icon?

[CMonster]

...first linked one