kde looks HORRIBLE!!!!

[mart_man00]

i finally gotten my radeon 9700 pro agp card and x to start up, but it looks really bad. its like im running windows in safe mode. the quality is worse than a kids coloring book but the resolution is very high(the one near 2000).

i cant seem to get it took look normal, any ideas?

and im not just talking about a bad default theme here.

thanks

[mo699898]

maybe a screenshot and the graphics section from your XF86Config

[bosox79]

Originally posted by mart_man00
i finally gotten my radeon 9700 pro agp card and x to start up, but it looks really bad. its like im running windows in safe mode. the quality is worse than a kids coloring book but the resolution is very high(the one near 2000).

i cant seem to get it took look normal, any ideas?

and im not just talking about a bad default theme here.

thanks

first of all what distro are you running? are you booting directly into xwindows? what version of xfree86 are you running?:cool: what version of kde are you running also? can you also post your x86config file

thanks

[mart_man00]

heres my config file

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "dri"
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
Load "glx"
Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 350 260 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "DEL"
ModelName "DELL M992"
DisplaySize 350 260
HorizSync 30-96
VertRefresh 50-160
Option "DPMS"
ModeLine "1024x768/100Hz" 115.5 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802 -HSync -VSync
ModeLine "1024x768/76Hz" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForcePCIMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "CPusecTimeout" # <i>
#Option "AGPMode" # <i>
#Option "AGPFastWrite" # [<bool>]
#Option "AGPSize" # <i>
#Option "RingSize" # <i>
#Option "BufferSize" # <i>
#Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>]
#Option "EnablePageFlip" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoBackBuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "DRIReinit" # [<bool>]
#Option "PanelOff" # [<bool>]
#Option "DDCMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "MonitorLayout" # [<str>]
#Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
#Option "OverlayOnCRTC2" # [<bool>]
#Option "CloneMode" # [<str>]
#Option "CloneHSync" # [<str>]
#Option "CloneVRefresh" # [<str>]
#Option "UseFBDev" # [<bool>]
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "radeon"
BoardName "ATI Radeon 9700 Pro"
VideoRam 131072
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
vendorname ""
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768/76Hz" "640x480"
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"

EndSection


im running gentoo wuth the newest version of x and kde. im really starting to like gentoo.

after finding the control center things it improved some but its still bad.

[Vaseline]

What's wrong with that? Heh.. :)

[mart_man00]

lol, gentoo is way faster but atleast red hat looked good!

[mart_man00]

just athough here after i get this straighten out should i use the gaming sources for gentoo?

any gentoo users out there?

[JSeibert]

I'm probably just confused here but the screen shot looks fine to me. Just change your theme if you don't like that. Download Bluecurve or something.

[mart_man00]

the pistures are all dotty. i cant read the icons on my desktop on my 19 inch crt monitor. why cant i set it to 32 bit? i can only get 24, that would help

o yeah, the white part of my windows isnt white!

[christos]

In your screen section of the XF86Config try adding DefaultDepth like this: (the dash is there just to make it easier to see - DON'T add it in)

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
- DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768/76Hz" "640x480"
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"


And restart X.
The theme looks standard butit does look horrible and pixally.
The lack of 32bit colour is because X uses 24bits the same way.
Don't ask me to explain, i saw it on an X site somewhere and my brain just said 'yeah? whatever!'
This should at least get you down to 1024x768.
Depending on what modes that card supports you should be able to switch resolutions by pressing ctrl+alt++/- (+/- on the num pad)
I'm surprised you even get a picture with that driver, my Radeon7500 only runs the generic ati card driver - muchos pain in the butt.

Hope this helps

chris

[dvdnut]

yeh man its the colour depth which needs altering

its probably on the lowest setting, get it up to 24 if possible

[mart_man00]

SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768/76Hz" "640x480"
Virtual 1024 768

isnt that what im seeing now, the 1st one? its set for 24? what do i have some many others?

thanks

[mart_man00]

i dont know if this matters but ive been doing this as root. it sounds like x is picky that way.

[GaMMa]

Gentoo user here, I suggest using the gaming sources.. it's a responsive and stable kernel. I used those for a while and recently switched to development-sources, which I find even more responsive and faster. It was a pain to get these up and running though.... yea go with gaming-sources.

[mart_man00]

any idea about the crappy quality of x now for me?

i use the wizard in the control center thing, it looks like the item 9700 Pro is just a name. i tried the generic ati driver and that didnt help much. is it a driver problem? does it just not like ati?\

why did redhat like it?

[mart_man00]

i was just windering something here, what about opengl? i think my card supports it, x cant like dx over opengl can i setit up to just see it as a opengl card with 128MB?

thanks

[Hayl]

Originally posted by mart_man00
just athough here after i get this straighten out should i use the gaming sources for gentoo?

any gentoo users out there?

use the wolk-sources. it is by far the fastest and stablest non-development (2.5.x) kernel.

[Hayl]

Originally posted by mart_man00
lol, gentoo is way faster but atleast red hat looked good!

not gentoo's fault. it's a user-error thing - sorry to say. :)

[mart_man00]

lol, yeah i know its my problem it looks so pixely.

i tried merege ati-drivers and had ti compiled but i dont know what files im supposed to edit. i hate how emerege tells you need to edit file but not the file that needs editing!!!!

[mart_man00]

any ati users out there? im still having some problems.

thanks

[christos]

What version of X are you running?

There is a tool in the last KDE that allows you to graphically modify the X setup.
If you have it, go into control panel, then peripherals and there should be an icon with X setup or settings in there, but this is only if you have KDE 3.1 i think (or maybe only Vector?? ;^)

Can you post the entirety of the XF86Config?

I have an ATI but it's a Radeon (though it does use some of the Rage modules to start!)

Chris

[SPo0n]

Originally posted by mart_man00
just athough here after i get this straighten out should i use the gaming sources for gentoo?

any gentoo users out there?

I'd post on the gentoo forums, everyone there is great.

I personally use the gentoo-sources, 2.4.20-r5

Quake3 runs fine - that's all that i care about :)

[andysimmons]

Originally posted by mart_man00

SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768/76Hz" "640x480"
Virtual 1024 768

isnt that what im seeing now, the 1st one? its set for 24? what do i have some many others?

thanks

You still need to add that DefaultDepth line as suggested by Christos.

[DavidMD]

Hello, mart_man00.

The main problem I notice with your screen capture is that the font for desktop icons is illegible.

Have you tried the simple step of changing your desktop font?

Good luck!

Cordially,

David
--
http://ddickerson.igc.org/

[christos]

If you still have the two 24bit depth entries in your XFree config then i suggest removing the top one after cutting and pasting the 'modes' entry from the first into the second.
Word of advice - don't know how good you are with pc's generally but i'd always make a backup copy of the file before you change it - just in case ;^)

If you want, email it my way and i'll change it for you.
Can't say fairer than that!!

[treydogg526tx]

you need to add the default depth

seems like when x starts, your are in 4 bit color...

[mart_man00]

luckily its working now. its was the depth and icon size. i played with the config file like you guy said and it look alright now. if only i could find a matrix style theme..............

thanks alot guys

[bosox79]

Originally posted by mart_man00
luckily its working now. its was the depth and icon size. i played with the config file like you guy said and it look alright now. if only i could find a matrix style theme..............

thanks alot guys

I am glad things worked out for you:D

[treydogg526tx]

check out www.kde-look.org, I think they have a matrix 2 theme..

[mart_man00]

i didnt even see it there. but its not much of theme, just colors like one comment said. i like the choice of linux but i wish there was a easy way to make it look kind of kool. im going to have to spend time hunting down bits and peices to make it look good. atleast alot of improvements have been made.